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Otto Warmbier's parents describing seeing their son for the first time
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:36 am
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:36 am
They are live on Fox and Friends right now so no link.
They describe them being at the airport waiting for the plane to land. Once they were allowed to go to the plane as they were walking up they heard "inhuman sounds" from inside. The women turned back, the men went in to see Otto on a stretcher thrashing around and making more of the sounds. He was blind, deaf and was said to have looked like someone "rearranged" his bottom teeth with pliers. His head was shaved as well as a large scar on his foot.
They describe them being at the airport waiting for the plane to land. Once they were allowed to go to the plane as they were walking up they heard "inhuman sounds" from inside. The women turned back, the men went in to see Otto on a stretcher thrashing around and making more of the sounds. He was blind, deaf and was said to have looked like someone "rearranged" his bottom teeth with pliers. His head was shaved as well as a large scar on his foot.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 6:16 am to flyAU
That's pretty frightening that a country would do that to a kid. He shouldn't have traveled there or stolen the banner, but he didn't deserve to end it like that.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 7:11 am to flyAU
Why did they allow their son to go to North Korea? I'm sure they were still paying for a lot of his stuff, possibly even the trip, which they could have threatened to cut off to keep him from going.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 7:14 am to LSU Fan SLU Grad
What makes you believe that he stole the banner? Unless there is video, I would think that is bs
Posted on 9/26/17 at 7:26 am to Rollo
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What makes you believe that he stole the banner? Unless there is video, I would think that is bs
There is video.
Google it.
No one disputes that he stole the banner.
However, the punishment was totally unjust and ridiculous.
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 7:27 am
Posted on 9/26/17 at 7:46 am to Cooter Davenport
Its on again right now.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 8:46 am to flyAU
Any comments from passengers or flight crew?
Posted on 9/26/17 at 8:49 am to flyAU
Yet the Left is saying Trump is a bigger monster than Rocket Man.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 8:58 am to NIH
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such evil folk
My father-in-law, God rest his soul, was a POW in Korea for 38 months, the length of the whole "war". He said the NKs were the most ruthless people in the world. The prisoners actually looked forward to the Chinese taking over the prison camps. Said the Chinese guards treated them so much better than the Korean guards.
You don't even want to hear about the NKs and their death marches. Truly despicable.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:03 am to Homesick Tiger
I don't understand how anyone can torture another human like that and not feel. It's a deep evil
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:05 am to LSU Fan SLU Grad
quote:Why do people believe the NORK media in this instance?
He shouldn't have traveled there or stolen the banner,
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:06 am to Cooter Davenport
quote:I do.
No one disputes that he stole the banner.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:07 am to Tiger Ryno
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I don't understand how anyone can torture another human like that and not feel. It's a deep evil
Authoritarianism is evil incarnate.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:18 am to Tiger Ryno
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I don't understand how anyone can torture another human like that and not feel.
When you shoot nuns and civilians, along with soldiers, in the back of the head because they can't keep up with the march, those people should be obliterated from the earth.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:20 am to Scruffy
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I do.
No serious person in any position of authority on the subject does. Not even his parents. No one in our government does.
He stole the damn banner. It was a super, super dumb move. Going there in the first place was a dumb move and he epically compounded that poor decision with a Darwin Award-level stupid decision to steal their shitty banner. He was an arrogant jackass moron, but that doesn't make North Korea's level of punishment of him the least bit just. It's a disgusting, evil regime. The man feeds his family alive to starving dogs. He's a living Ramsey Bolton.
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 9:26 am
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:21 am to flyAU
This is one sad thing that happened
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:34 am to flyAU
The law and order tendency to forgive Authoritarianism is alive and well in ALL these Otto Warmbier threads . What happened BEFORE they tortured him into a catatonic -like state of pain and anguish is irrelevant. The point is what they did to a US citizen who posed no threat and who was in their custody . It dismays me that so many normally clear- headed people choose to focus on his or his parents alleged culpability instead of focusing their righteous anger on the murderous Totalitarian regime that has killed more than a million of its citizens and others. It's a level of analysis that is too clever by half, and misses the important lesson of the entire sociopathically-choreographed Incident.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:38 am to chicano12
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Yes I do.
During the marches if anyone went to the ground and didn't make it back up on his feet before a guard showed you got a bullet to the back of the head and that's where you stayed. Nuns were shot like this, SKorean civilians were shot like this and of course our servicemen were also. My f-i-l and two of his buddies made a pact. If one of them went down and stayed down the other two would not desert him even if it meant their own lives. They actually thought that death would be kinder than more torture.
Out of more than 800 prisoners in their camp, just three years later, a little less than 200 made it back home. By the grace of God, him and his two buddies were part of that 200.
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