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re: One US air strike kills 200 civilians in Mosel
Posted on 3/27/17 at 1:22 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 3/27/17 at 1:22 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I put "they" in there to make a point. Our war against a few has turned into a war against many. We kill a bunch, another bunch pops up. Wars without a clear delineation between civil and military are self perpetuating.
Yes, and the point is perpetual war.
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 1:22 pm to WhiskeyPapa
quote:Well all of those conditions were met so no war crime.
Article 57 of the 1977 Additional Protocol I to the 1949 Geneva Conventions states that, in an international conflict, “constant care shall be taken to spare the civilian population, civilians, and civilian objects.” In addition, under Article 51, carpet bombing is prohibited, as are attacks that employ methods and means of combat whose effects cannot be controlled. Finally, attacks are prohibited if the collateral damage expected from any attack is not proportional to the military advantage anticipated.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 1:23 pm to tedmarkuson
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good. we killed 46,000 civilians bombing hamburg in WWII.
as long as it isn't your family amirite?
jk of course i'm right, you don't care about the darkies
Posted on 3/27/17 at 1:24 pm to Northwestern tiger
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Some people are soulless
Yep, They're referred to as liberals, or retards or just plan idiots.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 1:25 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
Article 57 of the 1977 Additional Protocol I to the 1949 Geneva Conventions states that, in an international conflict, “constant care shall be taken to spare the civilian population, civilians, and civilian objects.” In addition, under Article 51, carpet bombing is prohibited, as are attacks that employ methods and means of combat whose effects cannot be controlled. Finally, attacks are prohibited if the collateral damage expected from any attack is not proportional to the military advantage anticipated.
Well all of those conditions were met so no war crime.
When?
Posted on 3/27/17 at 1:25 pm to ILeaveAtHalftime
That is a very good question!
Posted on 3/27/17 at 1:29 pm to WhiskeyPapa
quote:I realize you don't know how the us military works but I can guarantee you that priority is given to protecting the civilian population over killing the enemy with airstrikes nearly 100% of the time and coordinates are checked and rechecked time and again with the most sophisticated targeting gear available. That's just the way it works.
When?
Very possible this was an Iraqi air strike coordinated and executed with almost zero US involvement.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 1:31 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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And we wonder why "they" hate us and we're in perpetual wars.
Y'all do?
I sure don't.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 1:32 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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To be fair, they hated us before we started killing them wholesale.
Not really, unless you don't consider Israelis as a part of "us" - which they are.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 1:33 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
They hated us because we loved Israel. Bombing them didn't help or hurt that.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 1:37 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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To be fair, they hated us before we started killing them wholesale.
I don't disagree that a lot of people hated America before we launched into full invasion mode in the ME, but our countless interventions had a major impact on people's lives, some of their complaints in that regard are legit, some are not. America has been an interventionist machine since the early 1900s, and we are paying the for that now.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 1:40 pm to Northwestern tiger
And.....
Posted on 3/27/17 at 1:43 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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We can walk up and put hand cuffs on any of the people we are bombing now.
Go right ahead. If you survive the gunfire then your beheading will go viral.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 1:53 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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They hated us because we loved Israel. Bombing them didn't help or hurt that.
US-supported Isreal bomombing them is US bombing them. That's when they started hating us.
They also hate us for being hypocrites.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:08 pm to WhiskeyPapa
You dumb shite.
As a general rule, sure, we can't target civilians, just as I said in my post.
Nothing keeps us from killing them as collateral damage. We kill civilians all the time. Check to see how many 'confirmed' civilian casualties we have since beginning Inherent Resolve. The actual number is higher.
Leave the LOAC/ROE to the big boys, ok?
As a general rule, sure, we can't target civilians, just as I said in my post.
Nothing keeps us from killing them as collateral damage. We kill civilians all the time. Check to see how many 'confirmed' civilian casualties we have since beginning Inherent Resolve. The actual number is higher.
Leave the LOAC/ROE to the big boys, ok?
Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:18 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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They hated us because we loved Israel. Bombing them didn't help or hurt that.
At one point the United States was seen as the impartial arbiter in the Arab Israeli conflict. Carter worked strongly for that and so did Bill Clinton. With the assasination of Yitzhak Rabin in 1995, Israel essentially renounced any compromise (although the Arabs are just about as bad).
The thing is now, no one sees the United States as impartial. We have wrecked Iraq, Libya and Syria for the benefit of Israel.
AND Obama and the Globalists were willing to bring in huge numbers of Syrian nationals to this country - which clearly benefited Israel. That struggle is ongoing. If Trump accomplishes anything hope it is that he can turn away the tide of filth the Globalists want to hose us down with.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 6:31 pm to Northwestern tiger
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Some reports saying the toll is close to 500
War crime?
So you believe everything you read...
Posted on 3/27/17 at 8:33 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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WildTchoupitoulas
If you haven't noticed, we are at war with Isis...just because a "Declaration of War" isn't enacted doesn't mean we aren't fighting!
And I really don't give a damn about civilian casualties...they know beforehand they are in "war" zone, and choose to stay.
So get the frick out of here with your snowflake bullshite!
This post was edited on 3/27/17 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 3/27/17 at 8:35 pm to Roaad
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Tragic and despicable.
However. . .
Where were these counters when Obama was in office? Where was this outrage? Did civilian casualties stop in January of 2009 and restart in mid-January 2017?
You had to ask even though you know the answer.
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