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Observation on "science deniers" and climate change
Posted on 4/24/17 at 11:55 am
Posted on 4/24/17 at 11:55 am
I've read a number of linked articles and newspaper accounts of the March For Science on Earth Day, and every participant quoted brought up the resistance to conventional wisdom on AGW/climate change as evidence of a "science denial" mindset that must be combated. Here's a couple of examples:
What was missing in all this self-congratulatory celebration of cleverness was any acknowledgement that the very people they demand be allowed to 'fix' climate change are those who caused it in the first place.
Scientific advance created the fossil fuel industry, as well as the innovations that made it scalable to grow economic activity. It was scientists that invented the advanced technologies that made massive energy consumption a human necessity. And who made it possible for humanity to overcome the naturally occurring Malthusian constraints that limited population growth, leading not only to the astronomical increase in greenhouse gases, but created more people to be put directly in the path of the coming climactic apocalypse? The scientists who championed the Green Revolution back in the mid-20th century.
And now, this same group is portraying themselves as the world's saviors. Shouldn't we be a little skeptical?
quote:
Erich Osterberg, a climate scientist at Dartmouth College, told the crowd that he had spent his career studying the effects of climate change in glaciers, and had seen first hand the front-line repercussions of a warming climate.
“We have got to get past this false debate about whether climate change is real. We have to get past that false debate so we can have the real debate about what we’re going to do to fix it,” he said.
quote:And so on.
“I thought it was important for us as a community to come together and have this event (in Windsor) because people in this city also need to be aware (of the importance of science),” said event organizer Allison Mistakidis, who earned her masters degree in biology.
“Science is essentially being ignored. We need to have a voice. This is our way of saying ‘listen to us’ because we know how the world works in terms of everyone’s well-being. Climate change and everything is impacted by our actions, so we need to stand up for what’s right.’”
What was missing in all this self-congratulatory celebration of cleverness was any acknowledgement that the very people they demand be allowed to 'fix' climate change are those who caused it in the first place.
Scientific advance created the fossil fuel industry, as well as the innovations that made it scalable to grow economic activity. It was scientists that invented the advanced technologies that made massive energy consumption a human necessity. And who made it possible for humanity to overcome the naturally occurring Malthusian constraints that limited population growth, leading not only to the astronomical increase in greenhouse gases, but created more people to be put directly in the path of the coming climactic apocalypse? The scientists who championed the Green Revolution back in the mid-20th century.
And now, this same group is portraying themselves as the world's saviors. Shouldn't we be a little skeptical?
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Posted on 4/24/17 at 11:58 am to FearlessFreep
Oh....these people will regret it.....just wait......30 years from now, they're screwed!
Posted on 4/24/17 at 11:59 am to FearlessFreep
I always find it funny how the same people who don't recognize that a fetus is a living thing like to lecture others about science.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 12:03 pm to LSU Patrick
quote:
I always find it funny how the same people who don't recognize that a fetus is a living thing like to lecture others about science.
These are the same people who say gender has nothing to do with Biology and that gender is fluid.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 12:04 pm to LSU Patrick
quote:
I always find it funny how the same people who don't recognize that a fetus is a living thing like to lecture others about science.
boom
wish i had more upvotes to give
Posted on 4/24/17 at 12:06 pm to CAD703X
Bill Nye the Fascist Guy
This post was edited on 4/24/17 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 4/24/17 at 12:11 pm to FearlessFreep
quote:This argument makes sense if there's a single person whose name is literally Scientific Advance and that person is an immortal who was a coal baron in 19th century England and is now a climate activist
What was missing in all this self-congratulatory celebration of cleverness was any acknowledgement that the very people they demand be allowed to 'fix' climate change are those who caused it in the first place.
Scientific advance created the fossil fuel industry
Otherwise it's retarded
This post was edited on 4/24/17 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 4/24/17 at 12:12 pm to FearlessFreep
How ironic, then, indeed, that this "science" that people claim can prevent bad things, can also... cause bad things. Truly a conundrum *puffs pipe thoughtfully*
This post was edited on 4/24/17 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 4/24/17 at 12:13 pm to LSU Patrick
quote:
I always find it funny how the same people who don't recognize that a fetus is a living thing like to lecture others about science.
What I find even funnier is how anyone can be confused or ignorant enough to think there is somehow a connection between abortion and climate change.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 12:14 pm to FearlessFreep
There are AT LEAST six separate and distinct instances where anyone with an IQ above single digits should have stood up and said -- WHAT THE F*CK IS UP WITH THIS SCAM!
1. When AleGore declared that "the debate is over" and refused to even listen to any differing opinions. The only reason politicized scum wants the debate to "be over" is because they cannot support their insane THEORIES with facts.
2. When they had to change the f*cking name from Global Warming to Climate Change because the FACTS weren't supporting their SCAM. Remember, in the 70's we were told all the doom and gloom scenarios as a result of the coming ice age?
3. When all of AleGore's doom and gloom predictions in the 90's and early 2000's were shown to be completely f*cking WRONG and were nothing more than alarmist BULLSH!T. Notice how all of their new DOOM AND GLOOM predictions go out 100 years. Now, WHY IS THAT? Could it be because no one will be alive to eat sh!t when their predictions turn out to be the same alarmist BULLSH!T that AleGore perpetrated 15-20 years ago?
4. Perhaps most importantly, anyone with a f*cking brain should realize this is a scam because those who are pumping it (AND LOOKING TO PROFIT OFF OF IT) are the same political scumbags who don't offer ANY solutions. Instead, they give you the same bullshite attempts to TAX THE F*CK OUT OF IT as they do with all of their other perceived societal ills.
5. When they come up with a hypothesis that, no matter what the weather/climate is actually like, it can be blamed on their scam.
FINALLY, if all of that isn't enough to make even a functional retard question global warmi... er, I mean climate change, the ultimate proof is in the proverbial pudding.
6. Not once, but twice now we have documented evidence of those in charge of "collecting the irrefutable data" upon which all of these bogus f*cking models are predicated committing fraud to support their conclusions. First there was the East Anglia University e-mails showing that these f*cking clowns fully realized that their meal ticket was a complete f*cking fraud so they manipulated the raw data. Then we found out recently from the NASA whistleblower that Odumbf*ck's NASA appointees (why the f*ck is this even a NASA issue to begin with?) have been manipulating the data.
Now, if all of these "experts" are so convinced that their theory is absolutely correct and the "debate is over" then why do they feel that they have to manipulate the data in first f*cking place?
EDITED TO ADD ON MAY 3, 2017!!!! We've had ANOTHER whistleblower from Odumbf*ck's NOAA admitting that the data was manipulated.
1. When AleGore declared that "the debate is over" and refused to even listen to any differing opinions. The only reason politicized scum wants the debate to "be over" is because they cannot support their insane THEORIES with facts.
2. When they had to change the f*cking name from Global Warming to Climate Change because the FACTS weren't supporting their SCAM. Remember, in the 70's we were told all the doom and gloom scenarios as a result of the coming ice age?
3. When all of AleGore's doom and gloom predictions in the 90's and early 2000's were shown to be completely f*cking WRONG and were nothing more than alarmist BULLSH!T. Notice how all of their new DOOM AND GLOOM predictions go out 100 years. Now, WHY IS THAT? Could it be because no one will be alive to eat sh!t when their predictions turn out to be the same alarmist BULLSH!T that AleGore perpetrated 15-20 years ago?
4. Perhaps most importantly, anyone with a f*cking brain should realize this is a scam because those who are pumping it (AND LOOKING TO PROFIT OFF OF IT) are the same political scumbags who don't offer ANY solutions. Instead, they give you the same bullshite attempts to TAX THE F*CK OUT OF IT as they do with all of their other perceived societal ills.
5. When they come up with a hypothesis that, no matter what the weather/climate is actually like, it can be blamed on their scam.
quote:
Let's see how it works --
Cold Summer - Fault of Climate Change
Moderate Summer - Fault of Climate Change
Hot Summer - Fault of Global Warming
Cold Fall - Fault of Climate Change
Moderate Fall - Fault of Climate Change
Hot Fall - Fault of Global Warming
Cold Winter - Fault of Climate Change
Moderate Winter - Fault of Climate Change
Hot Winter - Fault of Global Warming
Cold Spring - Fault of Climate Change
Moderate Spring - Fault of Climate Change
Hot Spring - Fault of Global Warming
Too Many Hurricanes - Fault of Global Warming
Average Number of Hurricanes - Fault of Climate Change
Very Few Hurricanes - Fault of Climate Change
And, on and on and on and on ....
FINALLY, if all of that isn't enough to make even a functional retard question global warmi... er, I mean climate change, the ultimate proof is in the proverbial pudding.
6. Not once, but twice now we have documented evidence of those in charge of "collecting the irrefutable data" upon which all of these bogus f*cking models are predicated committing fraud to support their conclusions. First there was the East Anglia University e-mails showing that these f*cking clowns fully realized that their meal ticket was a complete f*cking fraud so they manipulated the raw data. Then we found out recently from the NASA whistleblower that Odumbf*ck's NASA appointees (why the f*ck is this even a NASA issue to begin with?) have been manipulating the data.
Now, if all of these "experts" are so convinced that their theory is absolutely correct and the "debate is over" then why do they feel that they have to manipulate the data in first f*cking place?
EDITED TO ADD ON MAY 3, 2017!!!! We've had ANOTHER whistleblower from Odumbf*ck's NOAA admitting that the data was manipulated.
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 1:20 am
Posted on 4/24/17 at 12:16 pm to FearlessFreep
That's like saying doctors created penicillin resistant bacterias (by over prescribing), so we shouldn't trust them to try to find a way to fix the situation.
So, uh, who is going to fix it?
So, uh, who is going to fix it?
Posted on 4/24/17 at 12:17 pm to Iosh
Do you believe scientist can prevent the climate from changing? Do you believe man can prevent the climate from changing?
If man could regulate the climate through science, how would you peg it? What would be the "gold standard"?
If you knew you could regulate the climate, would you cool things off a tad to get it back to the way it was in the early 20th century? Is that what we are shooting for?
Or do we just start taxing ourselves in hopes that it will affect the climate somehow?
If man could regulate the climate through science, how would you peg it? What would be the "gold standard"?
If you knew you could regulate the climate, would you cool things off a tad to get it back to the way it was in the early 20th century? Is that what we are shooting for?
Or do we just start taxing ourselves in hopes that it will affect the climate somehow?
Posted on 4/24/17 at 12:17 pm to cahoots
Posted on 4/24/17 at 12:22 pm to doubleb
quote:Do I answer the question you're asking literally? Or do I answer the question you're clearly meaning to ask but doing a poor job phrasing? Experience tells me no matter which option I pick, the answer will be interpreted in the opposite way.
Do you believe scientist can prevent the climate from changing? Do you believe man can prevent the climate from changing?
Experience also tells me that the cognitive gap between people who don't correctly pluralize "--ist" words is too wide to establish effective communication.
So, pass.
This post was edited on 4/24/17 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 4/24/17 at 12:23 pm to Nuts4LSU
Well, according to wacko left wing tards, climate change causes terrorism, so why not?
Posted on 4/24/17 at 12:25 pm to FearlessFreep
quote:
Observation on "science deniers" and climate change
It's funny that these global warming conspiracists are chanting "you're wrong because my models say this. Believe us, we're science".
Yet when they were chanting the same things in the 70's with all of their predictions about the earth melting and sea levels rising 15 feet by 2005, and you look at how every single one of them was patently wrong, they just say "well that science was flawed, but this science is the one you need to believe".
Global warming is political. It has nothing, factually, to do with science, weather, nor the planet.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 12:25 pm to Iosh
I knew I could count on you to be obtuse. 
As for me, I'm counting on the likelihood that 'fixing' climate change will strongly resemble the Great Leap Forward.
So let's get busy and kill dem sparrows...because Science!
As for me, I'm counting on the likelihood that 'fixing' climate change will strongly resemble the Great Leap Forward.
So let's get busy and kill dem sparrows...because Science!
Posted on 4/24/17 at 12:25 pm to FearlessFreep
For these people "climate change" is code for more taxes and redistribution of wealth.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 12:26 pm to BugAC
quote:
Global warming is political. It has nothing, factually, to do with science, weather, nor the planet.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 12:30 pm to FearlessFreep
quote:
“We have got to get past this false debate about whether climate change is real. We have to get past that false debate so we can have the real debate about what we’re going to do to fix it,” he said.
Well you can never lose the debate if you're not actually talking about the same thing. No one denies that climates change. So if these paragons of wisdom continue this line of debating "climate change deniers" they'll never be wrong. These people don't exist.
Second, how incredibly narcissistic of him to say it needs to be "fixed". All the models out there can't even agree to what effect humans contribute to the change.
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