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Malik Agar
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re: Obama's "Rules for Assassination" just leaked


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Poodlebrain
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Member since Jan 2004
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re: Obama's "Rules for Assassination" just leaked
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im sorry but anyone fighting against our military despite being an American citizen is one of the biggest middle fingers someone can do to America and therefore deserves no rights carried with our citizenship.
Article 3, Section 3 of the Constitution defines treason and the requirements for conviction of treason. Specifically, "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted."

Please explain how this supposed policy meets the requirement of an open court with the testimony of two witnesses, or a confession?

It is one thing for someone to be killed in routine military operations, but to claim targeted killings are routine military operations is ridiculous given the need for an exceptional policy to cover just such events.


junkfunky
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Member since Jan 2011
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re: Obama's "Rules for Assassination" just leaked
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so in THEORY, our enemies could just become US citizens and that would eliminate our ability take them out if they werent on a "battlefield". The war that is going on right now can someone define to me where exactly the "battlefield" is?




You just took a steaming shite on two dem positions.
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roguetiger15
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Member since Jan 2013
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bruh,,i was trolling. relax


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uway
LSU Fan
Member since Sep 2004
23577 posts

re: Obama's "Rules for Assassination" just leaked
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do you guys consider someone as a known terrorist with an American citizenship to be an American?




Who says they are a terrorist?


Dodd
Duke Fan
Member since Oct 2003
19476 posts

re: Obama's "Rules for Assassination" just leaked
Just like the patriot act, this will save American lives. You guys are really over thinking this.


sgallo3
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Dorne
Member since Sep 2008
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re: Obama's "Rules for Assassination" just leaked
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Just like the patriot act, this will save American lives


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deltaland
Mississippi St. Fan
Member since Mar 2011
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re: Obama's "Rules for Assassination" just leaked
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do you guys consider someone as a known terrorist with an American citizenship to be an American?


Until proven guilty in a court of law, yes.


Eurocat
Northwestern Fan
Member since Apr 2004
6937 posts

re: Obama's "Rules for Assassination" just leaked
I support this.

It's simply not practical to go the court of law route in cases like this.

This is one time we have to turn a bit of a blind eye to the way we would like things to be for national security.

I support this policy completely.


Jbird
Iowa Fan
In Odramaville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
29741 posts

re: Obama's "Rules for Assassination" just leaked
So a drone strike anywhere in the world? Just take out that American some political apointee deems worthy of death?


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cajunangelle
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R.I.P. los angeles tiger
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WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
22867 posts

re: Obama's "Rules for Assassination" just leaked
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U r shitting right? Who determines "known"?

If I'm not mistaken, that authority is given to the President via the Patriot Act.

Whoever didn't see all this coming when they passed the PA is a fool.


goatmilker
LSU Fan
2014 drunkin Bobby award winner!
Member since Feb 2009
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re: Obama's "Rules for Assassination" just leaked
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do you guys consider someone as a known terrorist with an American citizenship to be an American?


A bad US citizen but citizen still.


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C
Atlanta Falcons Fan
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Dec 2007
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re: Obama's "Rules for Assassination" just leaked
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It's simply not practical to go the court of law route in cases like this.


Bush at least set up "secret" courts to wire tap. It's insane to think a single person can make the decision to kill someone.


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Jbird
Iowa Fan
In Odramaville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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re: Obama's "Rules for Assassination" just leaked
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If I'm not mistaken, that authority is given to the President via the Patriot Act.

Whoever didn't see all this coming when they passed the PA is a fool


Well apparently that has been delegated to some as yet unknown senior level persons.


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goatmilker
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2014 drunkin Bobby award winner!
Member since Feb 2009
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re: Obama's "Rules for Assassination" just leaked
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I support this policy completely.


I deem you a terrorist.

12 oclock high.


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C
Atlanta Falcons Fan
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Dec 2007
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re: Obama's "Rules for Assassination" just leaked
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authority is given to the President via the Patriot Act.


Then the act is unconstitutional.


DvlsAdvocat
Alabama Fan
Your Mom's House, AL
Member since Jul 2007
24491 posts

re: Obama's "Rules for Assassination" just leaked
Its good to see John Yoo has found work.

frickin' lawyers...ugh.


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WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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re: Obama's "Rules for Assassination" just leaked
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Then the act is unconstitutional.

You never know:


Section. 9.
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The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.



Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger...



C
Atlanta Falcons Fan
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Dec 2007
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re: Obama's "Rules for Assassination" just leaked
Yeah I'd love to see the DOJ defend the actions on those grounds. No chance they hold up.


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