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ObamaCare architect mouths off yet again; cause problems for Dems

Posted on 11/14/14 at 1:50 pm
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25310 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 1:50 pm
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ObamaCare architect mouths off again, as videos cause problems for Dems

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The mouth that won't stop giving -- and that has Democrats and the Obama administration cringing -- has been caught shooting off yet again on video, this time bragging how the Massachusetts health care system he helped design worked by ripping off millions of dollars from the federal government.




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One video, from a January 2012 forum, shows Gruber discussing the Massachusetts overhaul under then-Gov. Mitt Romney. He explained how the state was able to bilk the feds over hundreds of millions of Medicaid dollars.

"The dirty secret in Massachusetts is the feds paid for our bill, okay?" he said. "In Massachusetts we had a very powerful senator you may know named Ted Kennedy. ... Ted Kennedy and smart people in Massachusetts had basically figured out a way to sort of rip off the feds for about 400 million dollars a year."



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Even though Pelosi claimed she wasn't familiar with Gruber, other Democrats have made clear they know him -- and are not happy with him.

On CNN, former White House press secretary Jay Carney said of the tapes, "It's not good" and acknowledged he helped write ObamaCare and the Massachusetts law.



Gruber is the gift that keeps on giving. I bet a lot of people in Washington wish he had an off switch right about now.
This post was edited on 11/14/14 at 1:52 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72004 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 1:52 pm to
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Gruber is the gift that keeps on giving. I bet a lot of people in Washington wish he had an off switch right about now.
Well, the video is from 2012, so, I bet they wish cameras didn't exist or they had a time machine.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94823 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 1:52 pm to
The big difference here is that he said all this over the course of about 6 years, NOT that he is suffering from diarrhea of the mouth like a Joe Biden.


Him going unnoticed for so long means that there could be all kinds of shite out there that can be uncovered.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29025 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 1:54 pm to
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Him going unnoticed for so long means that there could be all kinds of shite out there that can be uncovered.



Some are actively looking for it.


Others are actively looking for it ... to destroy/bury it.
Posted by GregMaddux
LSU Fan
Member since Jun 2011
18209 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 1:54 pm to
Am I the only one who has learned to not expect any major repercussions or backlash for Democrats?

Nothing will become of this. Probably
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64156 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 1:56 pm to
Well what are you going to run with as your nightly news lead?

This guy(boring) or Mitts girly folder and a horse?
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
26925 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 1:57 pm to
There's no backlash for anyone once you're at a high enough level.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94823 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 1:57 pm to
Nothing will DIRECTLY happen to Dems... But this will likely play into the SCOTUS decision on exchanges and other things.


BTW, I am hoping they have proof Kagan, as Solicitor General, was in the room on some of these discussions. I'd love to get her recused from the case.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45793 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:00 pm to
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BTW, I am hoping they have proof Kagan, as Solicitor General, was in the room on some of these discussions. I'd love to get her recused from the case.



That would be huge...
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17712 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:00 pm to
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This guy(boring) or Mitts girly folder and a horse?


Wouldn't the Obamacare architect claiming how shitty it really is be more newsworthy then Mitt's binder or Ann's horse?
Posted by Holden Caulfield
Hanging with J.D.
Member since May 2008
8308 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:01 pm to
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am hoping they have proof Kagan, as Solicitor General, was in the room on some of these discussions

I had not considered her connection since this Gruber stuff hit the fan. That would be awesome if she had any knowledge of the deceit.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32089 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:04 pm to
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Wouldn't the Obamacare architect claiming how shitty it really is be more newsworthy then Mitt's binder or Ann's horse?



It was news worthy for some outlets. To others, it was more important to discuss a fabricated school yard fight that supposedly occurred 50 years ago.
This post was edited on 11/14/14 at 2:05 pm
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52749 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:04 pm to
This must be what Freeman felt like yesterday when he posted about Jindal, Duck Dynasty, and Movie tax credits in one thread.

Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:05 pm to
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But this will likely play into the SCOTUS decision on exchanges and other things.

dishonesty in the law making process should not impact the courts one iota.

Even if obama lied, it should have no bearing on the ruling by the courts. otherwise its clear the courts are completely corrupt. They are supposed to be above politics, not knuckle dragging like the rest.

As for gruber, dean probably wants a flux capacitor to go back and shut him up!
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94823 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:09 pm to
It goes beyond "dishonesty in the law".

This asshat has submitted an amicus brief on this case saying the exact opposite of what he has been caught saying on film.

I don't think SCOTUS looks favorably on that kind of thing.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:11 pm to
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I am hoping they have proof Kagan, as Solicitor General, was in the room on some of these discussions. I'd love to get her recused from the case.


If they can place her in the same room with Gruber and Obama crafting these lies...it will be huge.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14477 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:11 pm to
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This must be what Freeman felt like yesterday when he posted about Jindal, Duck Dynasty, and Movie tax credits in one thread.


Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:13 pm to
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This asshat has submitted an amicus brief on this case saying the exact opposite of what he has been caught saying on film.

For the case that is front of the courts now? Definitely surprised if the gov't is still using his data to back up their assertions.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:13 pm to
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this time bragging how the Massachusetts health care system he helped design worked by ripping off millions of dollars from the federal government.



MIT will go after him now. This is clear ethics violations of his professorship.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:16 pm to
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Ted Kennedy and smart people in Massachusetts had basically figured out a way to sort of rip off the feds for about 400 million dollars a year."

Wow, that's an actual quote.

What! an! idiot!
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