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NY Times: Trump might be the most famous person in history during their lifetime

Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:02 am
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33912 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:02 am
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All presidents are omnipresent. But it is likely that no living person in history has ever been as famous as Mr. Trump is right now. It’s possible that not even the most famous or infamous people of the recent or distant past — say, Barack Obama, Osama bin Laden, Bill Clinton, Richard Nixon, Michael Jackson, Muhammad Ali or Adolf Hitler — dominated media as thoroughly at their peak as Mr. Trump does now.

I’m hedging because there isn’t data to directly verify this declaration. (Of course, there are no media analytics to measure how many outlets were covering Hitler the day he invaded Poland.) But there is some pretty good circumstantial evidence.

Consider data from mediaQuant, a firm that measures “earned media,” which is all coverage that isn’t paid advertising. To calculate a dollar value of earned media, it first counts every mention of a particular brand or personality in just about any outlet, from blogs to Twitter to the evening news to The New York Times. Then it estimates how much the mentions would cost if someone were to pay for them as advertising.

In January, Mr. Trump broke mediaQuant’s records. In a single month, he received $817 million in coverage, higher than any single person has ever received in the four years that mediaQuant has been analyzing the media, according to Paul Senatori, the company’s chief analytics officer. For much of the past four years, Mr. Obama’s monthly earned media value hovered around $200 million to $500 million. The highest that Hillary Clinton got during the presidential campaign was $430 million, in July.

It’s not just that Mr. Trump’s coverage beats anyone else’s. He is now beating pretty much everyone else put together. Mr. Senatori recently added up the coverage value of 1,000 of the world’s best known figures, excluding Mr. Obama and Mr. Trump. The list includes Mrs. Clinton, who in January got $200 million in coverage, Tom Brady ($38 million), Kim Kardashian ($36 million), and Vladimir V. Putin ($30 million), all the way down to the 1,000th most-mentioned celebrity in mediaQuant’s database, the actress Madeleine Stowe ($1,001).

The coverage those 1,000 people garnered last month totaled $721 million. In other words, Mr. Trump gets about $100 million more in coverage than the next 1,000 famous people put together. And he is on track to match or beat his January record in February, according to Mr. Senatori’s preliminary figures.

How do we know Mr. Trump is more talked about than anyone else in the past? There are now more people on the planet who are more connected than ever before. Facebook estimates that about 3.2 billion people have internet connections. On average, the people of Earth spend about eight hours a day consuming media, according to the marketing research firm Zenith. So almost by definition, anyone who dominates today’s media is going to be read about, talked about and watched by more people than ever before.


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Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:10 am to
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NY Times: Trump might be the most famous person in history during their lifetime
Love him or hate him, there is little question whether people know who he is, and more importantly, have a strong opinion one way or the other.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126861 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:13 am to
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Trump might be the most famous person in history during their lifetime

Nah, that would be Emile Boudreaux.....
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
19900 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:14 am to
Couldn't resist the Hitler reference.

Crap people.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55437 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:15 am to
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Couldn't resist the Hitler reference.



In the context of the article, it's actually pretty fair.

Literally everybody knows Hitler.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
19900 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:16 am to
Good chuckle, but we both know that was not the intended point.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79032 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:17 am to
I mean, they put Barack in a sentence with Hitler and OBL

I think NYT deserves shite, but I think this is a reach.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55437 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:18 am to
I mean, the 'Drumpf is Hitler' comparisons make me chuckle endlessly, but if we are using notoriety as the common variable, then I do not think it is an insult or inappropriate.
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 10:19 am
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:23 am to
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Couldn't resist the Hitler reference.
Well this might a rare occasion where it's applicable. Hitler is one of the most well-known and signicant figures in history, especially recent history.
Unfortunately, people who did terrible things (Hitler, Kahn, Stalin) had a signicant impact on history.

In fact, I often wonder how Islam would be today if it weren't for Kahn destroying so much of their world, and more importantly, the records of their scientific and intellectual achievements at the time. It wasn't always regressive, in fact in many instances, the opposite. So it's not outrageous to think that a Islam would be far more modern and progressive than it is today if not for Genghis Kahn.
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 10:27 am
Posted by SpqrTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
9252 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:33 am to
I tend to agree.

Just the other day I was reading a Smithsonian magazine article online about an archaeological dig in Greece, where they found some artifacts 3,500 years old.

Somehow, someway, the author ended the article with a modern-day reference to the refugee/immigration situation in America. This led the article's comments section to be littered with pro and anti Trump rhetoric.

So long story short... I can't even read an article about ancient Mycenae without some asshat writer bringing Trump into the equation, and fifty shitheads throwing their two cents in about him.

Yep... most famous person in history. I'm buying it.
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