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LSUGrrrl
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NLRB has no jurisdiction over private universities.

And I believe it covers all players, not just scholarship players as there are injury risks to all.


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can the NCAA or Northwestern bring this to the Supreme Court? if so...i don't see it making it through


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tiger1014
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I'm against unions when there are appropriate measures in place for workers to be treated fairly and appropriately.

I don't believe those measures are in place in college football, however. College football is a multibillion dollar industry. Sure the kids who go to the better private schools end up with an expensive education. But kids that go to state school make pennies compared to what they bring in.


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Why does this only effect private universities?


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For now, the push is to unionize athletes at private schools, such as Northwestern, because the federal labor agency does not have jurisdiction over public universities.


LSUGrrrl
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Title IX will be impacted even if they don't touch other sports. Many get the facilities & programs they have bc of football income.

How does this impact federal dollars for Title IX if they are ruled employees?


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why does this only cover athletes? Why aren't other scholarship students affected at the private schools?


LSUGrrrl
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Because this is allegedly being done to address injury and health issues.


wickowick
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The basic formula used to calculate the cost of attendance for the 2013-14 academic year is as follows:

Expense Amount
Tuition $45,120
Fees (Health $200, ASG $162, Athletic $45)$407
Room and Board $13,862*
Books and Supplies $1,878
Personal Expenses $1,926
Loan Fee $35
Transportation Varies
Cost of Attendance $63,228


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NLRB has no jurisdiction over private universities.

And I believe it covers all players, not just scholarship players as there are injury risks to all.



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LSUGrrrl
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Now, Wednesday's decision does not mean that all college athletes are free to form a union and start collective bargaining right this instant. First of all, the NLRB's ruling only applies to students at private schools, not public schools. Players at public schools would need to appeal to their state's labor board. Secondly, as Northwestern made clear in its statement, it is going to appeal the decison.


1) It's being appealed to the National Labor Relations Board in DC. Has there been a delay in Obama's appointees that would impact this? Sounds like I've heard something about this but didn't pay attention.

2) Public Uni players CAN appeal to their state boards to unionize. Interesting to see how that plays out state by state.

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matthew25
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Vanderbilt is the only school affected in the SEC.

The NLRB has never had jurisdicition over government (federal, state, county, teachers, etc.) employees.


TigerintheNO
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It's being appealed to the National Labor Relations Board in DC. Has there been a delay in Obama's appointees that would impact this? Sounds like I've heard something about this but didn't pay attention.


The SCOTUS heard the arguements regarding the NLRB a few months back. Most court watchers believe the administration will lose the case, so Obama's appointees votes will not count. So there was never a quorum.


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Title IX will be impacted even if they don't touch other sports. Many get the facilities & programs they have bc of football income. How does this impact federal dollars for Title IX if they are ruled employees?


Maybe this will finally be the chance to challenge the extremely perverted reading that Title IX has "enjoyed" all of these years. It's a joke.


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Bunsbert Montcroff
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Cost of Attendance $63,228

jeez.

a four-year degree from northwestern costs a quarter million dollars?

insane.


MMauler
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Vanderbilt is the only school affected in the SEC.


Not really. Just think how easy it will make it to recruit to private schools if they're allowed to pay football players a certain amount and public schools aren't?

Vanderbilt will make a run of SEC championships for the next 30 years. Tulane would be a Louisiana powerhouse.


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LSUGrrrl
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NLRB doesn't have jurisdiction over public schools but each state labor board does. This sets president for each public university to appeal to their state board. You can see how this will play out - Conservative States don't allow unionizing & Progressive States do. How does that impact recruiting? Big clusterf#€k.


LSUGrrrl
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The SCOTUS heard the arguements regarding the NLRB a few months back. Most court watchers believe the administration will lose the case, so Obama's appointees votes will not count. So there was never a quorum.


Thank you


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TigerintheNO
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How does this impact federal dollars for Title IX if they are ruled employees?


Not at all, Title IX is a federal law. NLRB can't over turn federal law.


LSUGrrrl
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Not at all, Title IX is a federal law. NLRB can't over turn federal law.


That's not the issue. It's about funding Title IX programs. Successful football programs provide better programs and facilities for Title IX sports.


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MMauler
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Conservative States don't allow unionizing & Progressive States do.


If it meant that LSU (or Alabama) would be at a competitive disadvantage, the legislature would vote to do whatever is necessary to put LSU on an even playing field -- or even at a competitive advantage.


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