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North Korea has practically NO internet access

Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:24 pm
Posted by conservativewifeymom
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:24 pm
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Whoever is causing this, hats off and job well done!
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:25 pm to
All 8 accessible websites are now inaccessible
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:26 pm to
Down from 20 telephone poles to 1?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:27 pm to
North Korean citizens don't own computers, anyway. They are too busy eating each other.
Posted by baybeefeetz
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:27 pm to
So does this mean China is assisting?
Posted by CamdenTiger
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:27 pm to
Probably pissed off Al Gore, he loved Pineapple Express..
Posted by conservativewifeymom
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:28 pm to
The US is 'refusing' to comment.
Posted by FT
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:28 pm to
If Barack Obama would say, publicly,"We appreciate North Korea's willingness to help us in this investigation, but understand that that may take some time given their current technical difficulties," it would be amazing.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:28 pm to
Not sure would be presidential, but yes, some shite talking would be amusing here.
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:29 pm to
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So does this mean China is assisting?


Yea.

We asked them two days ago to help us, and they provide the NK infrastructure.

We're attacking through their system.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:30 pm to
And your source for this assertion is......?
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:30 pm to
Cool. I thought I heard that they had denied the request. Perhaps I did, and it was just that they denied it publicly.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:34 pm to
North Korea does get its access via China Unicom, but it also has a satellite-based backup link to the internet via Russian SatGate. As a tech nerd I'd really love to know more about this attack.
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:35 pm to
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And your source for this assertion is......?


Gizmodo
quote:

North Korea does very little commercial or government business over the Internet. The country officially has 1,024 Internet protocol addresses, though the actual number may be somewhat higher. By comparison, the United States has billions of addresses.



quote:

North Korea's addresses are managed by Star Joint Venture, the state-run Internet provider, which routes many of those connections through China Unicom, China's state-owned telecommunications company.



We couldn't just gain access to Chinese systems without consequences. They are allowing us to do that.
Posted by FT
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:35 pm to
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As a tech nerd I'd really love to know more about this attack.
I'm really interested in this kind of thing, too, but I'm clearly not nearly as savvy as you.

What are your thoughts on how the original hack to place, and on what might be happening here?
Posted by conservativewifeymom
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:36 pm to
Please post, I'd love to know and learn more. This is good stuff!
Posted by FT
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:38 pm to
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Please post, I'd love to know and learn more. This is good stuff!
I hope you weren't asking me to explain anything. I know very, very little about hacking compared to even an average hacker. With a little luck and a lot of time, I could probably get into your email or something, at best. I have no idea how large scale hacking works, or how these types of things happen.

ETA: And the last time I attempted to hack into something and succeeded was like... 10 years ago?
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 2:40 pm
Posted by conservativewifeymom
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Member since Oct 2012
12007 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:40 pm to
I guess it's a general request. If anybody knows more, inquiring minds want to know. Of course, explained in as close to layman's terms as possible.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79104 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:41 pm to
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Not sure would be presidential, but yes, some shite talking would be amusing here.



I mean, the a-hole is unpresidential all the time, at least use it for a good cause in this instance.
Posted by FT
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26925 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:47 pm to
The thing is, hacking on this level takes a ton of time. It's nothing like in the movies. It requires lots and lots of bandwidth, and lots of patience. Additionally, the more computers or programs you can have working towards getting access to the program you want, the faster you can get in. North Korea doesn't have that many, and probably doesn't have the know how in house. Chances are (and this is just a guess on my part), it's North Korean operatives working on this outside of North Korea proper. They would have much more access to the bandwidth and hardware they'd need if they were working from, say, China or the UAE or something.
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