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re: NFL strawmanning the hell out of what Trump said

Posted on 9/23/17 at 10:49 pm to
Posted by Ole Misdial
Red Light District
Member since Sep 2017
1123 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 10:49 pm to
So you think a movement built on the likes of "Hands Up Don't Shoot" and Alton sterling justified killings is built on truth? Thanks for letting me know to disregard you opinion on anything from here on out.
Posted by Ole Misdial
Red Light District
Member since Sep 2017
1123 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 10:49 pm to
You seem to be pretty miserable already
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
5637 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 10:50 pm to
Not this year. Eventually? Yes.
Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
10170 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 10:50 pm to
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the average person who graduates high school, gets married before having children and has a job has a better shot to achieve their dreams and prosperity.


fify
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38736 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 10:51 pm to
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Not this year. Eventually? Yes.





I lost hope
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 10:51 pm to
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fify


sorry that means "fixed that for you"

you just reframed my entire sentence, into a completely different argument.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
5637 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 10:51 pm to
If this is what misery looks like I'm even better off than I thought. Thanks!
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54202 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 10:52 pm to
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But the average white person has a better shot to achieve their dreams and prosperity. Disagree?


Well I would have to hear your definition of what "the average white person" entails. Also, your definition of an average black person needs defining.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
5637 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 10:52 pm to
I'm a skins fan, I know the feeling. At least you won a super bowl in the last decade. We've been a joke since Snyder got here.
Posted by JoBoo
Ethiopian-American
Member since Jul 2005
5075 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 10:53 pm to
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So every player supports this kneeling shite? You sure about that?


The commissioner, about seven or eight owners and many many players have already spoken out in disgust at trumps ignorant, stupid and pandering remarks.
Hell, a major league baseball catcher kneeled tonight and a show of solidarity to the NFL players. First one to do it.
It's less about the movement itself, and more about trump opening his big fricking mouth when he shouldn't have. He called out players for exercising their constitutional right, and in doing so, players, owners and even the commissioner who were not active in the movement are supporting the ones who were. Why? Because our dumbass president felt the need to curse the players who were peacefully protesting.
And in true Trumpkin fashion, The same morons who time and time again apologize for this stupid fricker are doing it again.


Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
10170 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 10:53 pm to
Your argument is based on the premise that race is the ultimate determining factor for success and prosperity in the US, when in fact it has more to do with culture.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 10:54 pm to
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Well I would have to hear your definition of what "the average white person" entails. Also, your definition of an average black person needs defining.


Well, we can use the median in this case.


and the same for each group.

Scaling based on guardian income, guardian education. I'm sure we can agree on generally the same metrics and from there talk about the hypothetical median individual.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 10:55 pm to
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Your argument is based on the premise that race is the ultimate determining factor for success and prosperity in the US


Thats actually not what I'm saying at all. But to say it doesn't have it's place in the equation is a hard argument to make.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54202 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 10:58 pm to
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The commissioner, about seven or eight owners and many many players


Does not equal the entire league as I responded to. Comprehension could have saved you a lot of typing.
Posted by rooster108bm
Member since Nov 2010
2872 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 11:06 pm to
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He called out players for exercising their constitutional right


Where in the Constitution does it say you have the right to free speech, protest or just sit on your arse while employed?
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
4297 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 11:10 pm to
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to curse the players who were peacefully protesting.


Why undermine whatever point you were trying to make by including this?
Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
10170 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 11:13 pm to
So, in this equation, is race a more determining factor than culture?
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17440 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 11:19 pm to
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Nah, logic. Wearing pig socks is setting a positive framework for conversation? Post way less. Thanks


Don't forget about wearing the Che Guevara tee shirt and saying he respected him. Only to be upset that Miami went with Cutler instead.....wonder why Miami did that?
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 11:21 pm to
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Trump commands all the attention int he world, he can stop the world with a single tweet.

He can hold the NFL's feet to the fire as much as he want.

He needs to just keep hammering their inability to address the anthem issue.


Why? Who fricking cares if some football players kneel during the national anthem? This fricking trivial bullshite shouldn't even crack the top 100 of things the President of the United States should be thinking about TODAY, let alone any longer than that.
Posted by Mrtommorrow1987
Twilight Zone
Member since Feb 2008
13119 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 11:25 pm to
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Do you HONESTLY believe this? Do you honestly believe people of color have an entirely equal shot in the US?


I forgot arnt there laws in place for black people to get jobs over white people bc the color of their skin? Affirmative Action anyone?
This post was edited on 9/23/17 at 11:27 pm
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