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New Reason.com video on why post office should be privatized
Posted on 10/9/17 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 10/9/17 at 12:05 pm
Interesting video.
LINK
Only 5% of USPS delivery is letters, and less and less billing is done through mail and rather is done online and digitally.
Over half of USPS delivery is "junk" mail consisting of advertisements.
At the very least, we should end the monopoly the USPS has over certain kinds of mail.
Another interesting factoid: despite america being "less socialist" than europe, many european countries have moved on from their post offices, and have left it to the private market.
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Only 5% of USPS delivery is letters, and less and less billing is done through mail and rather is done online and digitally.
Over half of USPS delivery is "junk" mail consisting of advertisements.
At the very least, we should end the monopoly the USPS has over certain kinds of mail.
Another interesting factoid: despite america being "less socialist" than europe, many european countries have moved on from their post offices, and have left it to the private market.
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Posted on 10/9/17 at 12:05 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Postal employee Newman, it's time for your 3 hour lunch break
Posted on 10/9/17 at 12:06 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Something something something poor minorities!
Posted on 10/9/17 at 12:09 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I can hear USPS employees being triggered all over the nation as they sit at home on Indigenous Peoples’ Day.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 12:24 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I would not mind if the post office was privatized, but since establishing a post office is one of the responsibilities of the government enumerated in the constitution, how do strict constitutionalists feel about privatization?
Posted on 10/9/17 at 12:32 pm to crazy4lsu
The way it's written is that Congress can or may establish a Post Office, not that they must.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 12:33 pm to crazy4lsu
Congress is not required to establish post offices. It merely has the power to do so if it chooses to. And it chose to do so in 1792 when it passed the Postal Service Act. That Act of Congress established the Post Office Department. All it takes to repeal an Act of Congress is another Act of Congress- not a constitutional amendment.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 12:39 pm to Centinel
The whole reason why the founders and early leaders thought the post office was a good idea was because they thought it would be a good way for the gov't to raise revenue. It had very little to do with any sort of principled idea that americans deserve equal access to letter services.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 12:55 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
1st problem is it's government run
2nd, you hire employees that get extra points on the entrance test for being minority of some type. So you pass iver better testing employees to hire a lower scoring one! Brilliant, who would have thought port employees make you less efficient?
2nd, you hire employees that get extra points on the entrance test for being minority of some type. So you pass iver better testing employees to hire a lower scoring one! Brilliant, who would have thought port employees make you less efficient?
Posted on 10/9/17 at 12:59 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Privatization was attempted back in the 1800s. It was squashed for political reasons. Jobs at the post office were used to reward supporters of local and state candidates who won their election.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 1:01 pm to Zach
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Privatization was attempted back in the 1800s. It was squashed for political reasons. Jobs at the post office were used to reward supporters of local and state candidates who won their election.
Which is exactly why Jefferson was against it. It's almost like the man could see the future...
Posted on 10/9/17 at 1:10 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
The USPS is still needed because it provides services to rural communities that the private sector under-serves. It is also significantly cheaper than its private sector competitors.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 1:20 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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why post office should be privatized
isn't it owned by amazon already?
Posted on 10/9/17 at 1:24 pm to CommoDawg
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It is also significantly cheaper than its private sector competitors.
Ha! Cheaper because they lose $5Billion per year or around $50million per day!
Posted on 10/9/17 at 1:25 pm to CommoDawg
quote:hate to break it to you but this is an inefficient use of resources that makes society on net worse off.
The USPS is still needed because it provides services to rural communities
There are post offices in the middle of nowhere waste resources such as utilities and labor. They just sit there and lose money.
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It is also significantly cheaper than its private sector competitors.
Wrong. The USPS loses money on package delivery.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 1:26 pm to Centinel
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The way it's written is that Congress can or may establish a Post Office, not that they must.
I believe you are wrong. I think the government has an obligation to establish post offices.
However, there is nothing in the COTUS that says that those post offices must deliver mail to individual addresses. Nothing at all.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 1:30 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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I believe you are wrong.
That's fine, but I'm not wrong.
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I think the government has an obligation to establish post offices.
You thought wrong.
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The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
To borrow money on the credit of the United States;
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;
To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;
To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;
To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;
Nothing in the above says Congress must
This post was edited on 10/9/17 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 10/9/17 at 1:35 pm to Centinel
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Centinel
You are truly one of the dumbest posters on this board. And that's saying something.
If the COTUS says "Congress SHALL" have the authority to do something, then that means Congress SPECIFICALLY has the authority to do something and no one else may do it, it doesn't mean Congress has a choice.
You dumb motherfricker.
"Congress shall" means "Congress MUST"
Example. The second fricking amendment. Under your stupid, and incorrect, interpretation of "shall" that would mean Congress could choose whether they wanted to pass laws that prohibit the ownership of guns or not, but we know , well you don't know because you're stupid but I'm explaining to you in small words here so hopefully you get it, that SHALL means "MUST" in legal terms which means that in the second amendment "SHall not" means "Must NOT"
You ignorant frick.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 1:38 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I talked with the postmaster in my parents small town 2 weeks ago. He told me because of internet sales that they are now just as busy as they were 15 years ago.
Don’t know if it would be better and cheaper to privatize USPS. Fed Ex and UPS has probably hurt the post office just as much as anything.
Don’t know if it would be better and cheaper to privatize USPS. Fed Ex and UPS has probably hurt the post office just as much as anything.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 1:41 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Lol ummm... Do you even English mister 2nd year law student?
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