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My health insurance premium just renewed. 42 percent increase over two years

Posted on 7/18/17 at 11:55 am
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26644 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 11:55 am
18 percent last year
24 percent this year.

And the overall quality of the plan has significantly decreased. Higher deductibles.

Is this what we call "fixing health care"?

Many of my employees don't buy our healthcare because it is too expensive and I subsidize the cost.

It isn't even arguable that healthcare is significantly worse since Obamacare. Who can even defend this horseshite?
Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
6124 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 11:59 am to
The Republican bill would have done 0 to slow those increases down. There were insurers actually asking state insurance boards to allow higher increases if the plan passed.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32520 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:00 pm to
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The Republican bill would have done 0 to slow those increases down

Well that bill isn't reality, Obamacare is the reality.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17953 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:01 pm to
too bad it is illegal for people to procure medical services and pay cash. You can buy a lot of care with the same amount of cash that insurance costs these days.

Providers can provide better, faster care at a much lower cost when done with cash transactions, too.

Hrm....I may be seeing a common theme here.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:01 pm to
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The Republican bill would have done 0 to slow those increases down. There were insurers actually asking state insurance boards to allow higher increases if the plan passed.


Which is one of the reasons it didn't pass.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:02 pm to
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too bad it is illegal for people to procure medical services and pay cash.


No it's not.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17953 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:03 pm to
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No it's not.


The point was it is illegal to not have insurance. Play your semantics all you want.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26644 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:04 pm to
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The Republican bill would have done 0 to slow those increases down. There were insurers actually asking state insurance boards to allow higher increases if the plan passed.


The Republican bill sucked. Link to where I defended it?

Pre-Obamacare should be our baseline, not post-.

Less people now have insurance they can use than prior to Obamacare. It's a complete scam.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:05 pm to
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The point was it is illegal to not have insurance.


It's illegal to drive 36 in a 35. Live your life.
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:06 pm to
Get a better job
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17953 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:08 pm to
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It's illegal to drive 36 in a 35. Live your life.


that might be the most irrelevant comparison I have seen on this board in months.
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35113 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:08 pm to
If you people had jobs we wouldn't have this problem
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26644 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:08 pm to
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Get a better job


I own the company you frick-stick. I would discuss the issue with you in business terms but you are too much of a big government liberal racist to understand the terms.
This post was edited on 7/18/17 at 12:09 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:09 pm to
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Pre-Obamacare should be our baseline, not post-.


Just like pre-stimulus Federal budgets should be a baseline.

Government is like a baby's alimentary canal - a voracious appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other. - paraphrased Reagan
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:09 pm to
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that might be the most irrelevant comparison I have seen on this board in months.


It's not irrelevant. If it doesn't make sense for you to have insurance, don't buy it.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19670 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:09 pm to
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Who can even defend this horseshite?
bamaalt. She will tell you how awesome it is you are paying so much more so a few million people can have crappy insurance or Medicaid, and if you take it away you are literally killing every single one of them
This post was edited on 7/18/17 at 12:13 pm
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5177 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:11 pm to
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Get a better job


If you truly think that is the solution, you're a major part of the problem.

He mentioned having employees and that HE subsidizes part of the premiums. Sounds like he's a business owner. So your suggestion is to get a better job, close up shop, lay off all employees, which creates even more people trying to get a subsidy on the ACA and economic contraction. Good plan.
Posted by OneFifty
No favorite team now
Member since Aug 2012
3872 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:13 pm to
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There were insurers actually asking state insurance boards to allow higher increases if the plan passed.

quote:

Which is one of the reasons it did not pass

Said Collins, Lee, Moran, and Paul...and these guys alone. (At least I HOPE this was among the reasons, but would prefer that they opposed because it was diet ACA)

The other 96 can pound sand.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21863 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:15 pm to
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I own the company


Negotiate better rates with another insurer.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:15 pm to
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Negotiate better rates with another insurer.

frick off, idiot.
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