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Monument Ave. - Richmond, VA next on the chopping block
Posted on 8/17/17 at 11:25 am
Posted on 8/17/17 at 11:25 am
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Mayor Levar M. Stoney Statement on Monument Avenue:
When I spoke about the monuments earlier this summer, it was from an optimism that we can take the power away from these statues by telling their true story, for the first time.
As I said in June, it is my belief that, as they currently stand without explanation, the confederate statues on Monument Avenue are a default endorsement of a shameful period in our national and city history that do not reflect the values of inclusiveness, equality and diversity we celebrate in today’s Richmond.
I wish they had never been built.
Still, I believed that as a first step, there was a need to set the historical record straight. That is why I asked the Monument Avenue Commission to solicit public input and to suggest a complete and truthful narrative of these statues, who built them and why they were erected.
When it comes to these complicated questions that involve history, slavery, Jim Crow and war, we all must have the humility to admit that our answers are inherently inadequate. These are challenges so fundamental to the history of our country, commonwealth, and city that reducing them to the question of whether or not a monument should remain is, by definition, an oversimplification.
But context is important in both historical, and present day, perspectives. While we had hoped to use this process to educate Virginians about the history behind these monuments, the events of the last week may have fundamentally changed our ability to do so by revealing their power to serve as a rallying point for division and intolerance and violence.
These monuments should be part of our dark past and not of our bright future. I personally believe they are offensive and need to be removed. But I believe more in the importance of dialogue and transparency by pursuing a responsible process to consider the full weight of this decision.
Effective immediately, the Monument Avenue Commission will include an examination of the removal and/or relocation of some or all of the confederate statues.
Continuing this process will provide an opportunity for the public to be heard and the full weight of this decision to be considered in a proper forum where we can have a constructive and civil dialogue.
Let me be clear: we will not tolerate allowing these statues and their history to be used as a pretext for hate and violence, or to allow our city to be threatened by white supremacists and neo-Nazi thugs. We will protect our city and keep our residents safe.
As I said a few weeks ago, our conversation about these Monuments is important. But what is more important to our future is focusing on building higher-quality schools, alternatives to our current public housing that provide dignity and safety for all, and policies to provide opportunities for all Richmonders to succeed
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Monument Avenue, in Richmond, Virginia, is an avenue with a tree-lined grassy mall dividing the east- and westbound traffic and is punctuated by statues memorializing Virginian Confederate participants of the Civil War Robert E. Lee, J.E.B. Stuart, Jefferson Davis, Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson, and Matthew Fontaine Maury. There is also a monument to Arthur Ashe, a Richmond native and international tennis star who was African American. The first monument, a statue of Robert E. Lee, was erected in 1890.
Guess there will just be one monument left on monument Ave when it's all said and done.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 11:27 am to Puffoluffagus
That Ashe statue is so ridiculous. The fact it is even on monument is stupid.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 11:27 am to Puffoluffagus
these people are sick in the fricking head. the dems that promote this can and will lose. they are real near people being as pissed off as this guy. LINK
Posted on 8/17/17 at 11:29 am to weagle99
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The fact it is even on monument is stupid.
It was put there on purpose. I think it would have been great at the tennis center with his name but what do I know.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 11:29 am to cajunangelle
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That is why I asked the Monument Avenue Commission to solicit public input and to suggest a complete and truthful narrative of these statues, who built them and why they were erected
Suggest truth? Aren't there factual answers to those questions that don't require consensus from uneducated people?
Posted on 8/17/17 at 11:30 am to GRTiger
By the way, this will bring out the worst of the worst on both sides.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 11:33 am to Puffoluffagus
prepared for the downvotes. here's a graph of when Confederate statues went up around the south (and US), and what was going on in America when the did:
This post was edited on 8/17/17 at 11:35 am
Posted on 8/17/17 at 11:36 am to Puffoluffagus
why is arthur ashe about to club those children like baby seals?
Posted on 8/17/17 at 11:36 am to Machine
Get some rope and some fat girls with blue hair. Tear 'em down.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 11:36 am to cajunangelle
what makes them sick in the head?
Posted on 8/17/17 at 11:37 am to Machine
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and what was going on in America when the did:
Surely we had other things going on back then.
I'm guessing the jump in the 60s was a 100 year anniversary bump, not some odd and futile counter to civil rights.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 11:37 am to tedmarkuson
I always thought that his statue was awkward as hell.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 11:38 am to GRTiger
quote:oh, okay.
I'm guessing the jump in the 60s was a 100 year anniversary bump, not some odd and futile counter to civil rights.
celebrating 100 years of treason is a good reason to put up monuments to Generals that fought against the United States to preserve the enslavement of American citizen's ancestors.
This post was edited on 8/17/17 at 11:39 am
Posted on 8/17/17 at 11:42 am to Machine
Simpleton
They were a different country
Will we invade California if they leave?
They were a different country
Will we invade California if they leave?
Posted on 8/17/17 at 11:43 am to Machine
Bitch, don't change your dumb argument. Continue suggesting those statues were an indictment of what was going on in your graph.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 11:43 am to Puffoluffagus
I date the statue business -- and the realization by SJWs that it could be exploited -- directly back to this:
Monument Avenue in Richmond
Just like they only wanted civil unions, not homo marriage
Monument Avenue in Richmond
quote:Note the first step was not to tear down, but just add
Arthur Ashe Monument
The decision to place the statue of Arthur Ashe by Paul DiPasquale on Monument Avenue was controversial.[14] Detractors pointed to a lack of correlation between the Richmond native tennis star and Confederate leaders. Some residents thought the monument should be placed at the Arthur Ashe Athletic Center instead. The monument became a focal point of racial tensions in the city around the times of its commission and its unveiling. Many of the city's majority African American residents cited Ashe's distinguished place in the modern history of the city as a reason for inclusion, while some residents and other parties rejected it as inappropriate for Monument Avenue, which until 1996 contained only statues of men with a relationship to the Confederate States of America.
Just like they only wanted civil unions, not homo marriage
Posted on 8/17/17 at 11:45 am to Machine
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celebrating 100 years of treason is a good reason to put up monuments to Generals that fought against the United States to preserve the enslavement of American citizen's ancestors.
It's amazing how little history some people know.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 11:48 am to gthog61
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Simpleton
They were a different country
Will we invade California if they leave?
guy who doesn't live in Richmond
worry about where you live
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