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re: MOAR Civil Asset Forfeiture: ICE guidelines on what to steal
Posted on 10/20/17 at 10:34 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 10/20/17 at 10:34 am to SlowFlowPro
And Sessions is the biggest cheerleader of all for this. Thanks Trump !
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Posted on 10/20/17 at 10:41 am to SlowFlowPro
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Agents under its instruction are asked to weigh the competing priorities of law enforcement versus financial profit and to “not waste instigative time and resources” on assets it calls “liabilities” — which include properties that are not profitable enough for the federal government to justify seizing. “As a general rule, if total liabilities and costs incurred in seizing a real property or business exceed the value of the property, the property should not be seized,” the document states.
This part isn't the problem. It's common sense not to assume a financial burden by hauling off the four junkers on blocks in the front yard.
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The handbook acknowledges that civil forfeiture can be used to take property from a person even when there’s not enough evidence for a criminal indictment.
THIS part is a huge problem, and I wish more people paid attention to it.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 10:43 am to Toddy
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And Sessions is the biggest cheerleader of all for this. Thanks Trump !
He's made up for it by deporting "the bad ones" and staying out of Colorado IMO.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 10:46 am to SlowFlowPro
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Agents under its instruction are asked to weigh the competing priorities of law enforcement versus financial profit and to “not waste instigative time and resources” on assets it calls “liabilities” — which include properties that are not profitable enough for the federal government to justify seizing. “As a general rule, if total liabilities and costs incurred in seizing a real property or business exceed the value of the property, the property should not be seized,” the document states.
This sounds more like a business than it does law enforcement.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 3:38 pm to MrLarson
Posted on 10/20/17 at 3:38 pm to Toddy
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And Sessions is the biggest cheerleader of all for this. Thanks Trump !
Toddy,
1. Do you think I voted for Trump or supported him?
2. Do you think I supported his choice for AG?
Posted on 10/20/17 at 3:43 pm to Salmon
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I also rather enjoy the part about the EPA doing Phase I assessments on properties before they determine if they are going seize or not
What sort of context is that in?
Posted on 10/20/17 at 3:46 pm to upgrayedd
to make sure there aren't any issues that would affect the value of the property 
Posted on 10/20/17 at 3:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
No, I mean why they would be seizing property. I've done my fair share of Phase I's.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 3:56 pm to upgrayedd
the EPA?
they're not taking the property. they're helping out agencies that are taking the property by doing the assessments
they're not taking the property. they're helping out agencies that are taking the property by doing the assessments
Posted on 10/20/17 at 3:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
Ah, makes sense now.
That's a pretty sophisticated forfeiture system
That's a pretty sophisticated forfeiture system
Posted on 10/20/17 at 3:59 pm to upgrayedd
No different then someone ghosting property before they steal it.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 4:02 pm to Toddy
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And Sessions is the biggest cheerleader of all for this
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HSI’s 71-page “Asset Forfeiture Handbook,” dated June 30, 2010,
Unlike Obama
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