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re: Minorities don't learn from older white teachers

Posted on 1/15/17 at 3:42 pm to
Posted by Hoops
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Posted on 1/15/17 at 3:42 pm to
Yeah but they got that extra muscle in their brains
Posted by PoundFoolish
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Posted on 1/15/17 at 3:42 pm to
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Yeah, because all the Asians in my school growzing up really had a hard time in class and weren't on top. I blame it on no Asian teachers.


I blame it on the white teachers' judgment of (South) Asians based on the color of their skin . . . oh, wait
This post was edited on 1/15/17 at 3:44 pm
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 1/15/17 at 3:43 pm to
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And yet 95% of Teach America teachers are white, Tier-1 college grads at "underprivileged" schools.


you said Teach America. Those are not certified, real teachers.
Posted by PoundFoolish
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Posted on 1/15/17 at 3:44 pm to
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you said Teach America. Those are not certified, real teachers.


Yep, just like most of the full-time teachers at many inner-city schools
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 1/15/17 at 3:47 pm to


Google the certification process, but the gist is, it's different for Teach For America than it is for real teachers
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 1/15/17 at 3:48 pm to
The education "certification" thing is a racket and keeps normal folks with good degrees away.
Posted by PoundFoolish
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Posted on 1/15/17 at 3:49 pm to
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Google the certification process, but the gist is, it's different for Teach For America than it is for real teachers


It's also a different hiring process for many "underpriveleged" public schools. Many may be "certified" but not college educated.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/15/17 at 3:50 pm to
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The education "certification" thing is a racket and keeps normal folks with good degrees away.

100%

teaching certification/licensing is one of the more absurd processes i've looked at

real estate is the worst i think, though
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
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Posted on 1/15/17 at 3:51 pm to
Your OP is pathetically oversimplified.

Posted by Sleeping Tiger
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Posted on 1/15/17 at 3:52 pm to
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The education "certification" thing is a racket and keeps normal folks with good degrees away.

100%

teaching certification/licensing is one of the more absurd processes i've looked at

real estate is the worst i think, though


The fact they want regular grade school teachers to have advanced teaching degrees is nuts.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/15/17 at 3:53 pm to
i never understood that. not one bit

even if one wants to argue some sort of psychology necessary to educate young minds, that's already built into the curriculum they're given
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 1/15/17 at 3:54 pm to
It rewards people in education majors and penalizes people who could actually teach math, history, science, etc.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/15/17 at 3:55 pm to
well at least teachers who are certified get 100% of their salaries, unlike those in real estate
Posted by PoundFoolish
East Texas
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Posted on 1/15/17 at 3:56 pm to
. . . and 3+ months off of work
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 1/15/17 at 3:59 pm to
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Imagine white students complaining that they can't learn from a black teacher, using the same arguments.



I don't know, dude.

My typing teacher was scary as f so I damn well paid attention!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/15/17 at 4:00 pm to
i'm just talking about the worst licensing rackets

having a license to sell real estate is pretty stupid, but once you get licensed you can't even work for yourself for like 2-3 years (and you have to get a different license to become a broker). you have to work for a broker and give them like 1/3 of your commissions only b/c it's a requirement of law
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 1/15/17 at 4:00 pm to
I thought about teaching prior to committing to my current path and the certification programs pretty much deterred me. One of the only ways to maneuver around them is to do a TFA esque program and I read too many Reddit horror stories to do that.
This post was edited on 1/15/17 at 4:01 pm
Posted by texashorn
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Posted on 1/15/17 at 4:02 pm to
Do you have anything substantive to add to this thread, Dev Patel, or are you going to perpetuate the stereotypes?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/15/17 at 4:03 pm to
after my issue i had last yer lawyer-wise i thought about being a teacher for a few years and when i looked at what it would take i was blown the frick away. i have a fake doctorate in a social science and i couldn't teach social studies to middle school or high school kids?
Posted by PoundFoolish
East Texas
Member since Jul 2016
3724 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 4:04 pm to
While some of the blame for all of this is on pre-existing programs like No Child Left Behind, far more of the issues stem from the Common Core mandate . . . hopefully it will be phased out soon.
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