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Militarily, could Texas win a war with Mexico without US support.

Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:18 pm
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:18 pm

One of the multiple reasons Texas decided to become a state with the US was due to the possible threat of Mexican military invasion.

If Texas were to secede, would they be able to fight off Mexico. Also a few other notes

1) Would Texas still use US currency or create their own.

2) Technically they would be a foreign country, so would what this do to GOP in the electoral college.

3) Since they are a border state, would conservatives finally stop complaining about immigration and focus on other issues, even if the lack of immigrants may not significantly effect the average working class persons life?
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48245 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:20 pm to
Of course they could because there would be a million volunteers flocking to the Lone Star colors to fight.

Yee-haaww.

Well, maybe not a million, but, I'll bet tens of thousands.

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43318 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

Militarily, could Texas win a war with Mexico without US support.


Assuming the Texas NG got to keep all their military equipment, then yes easily.

If not? Not so much.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:21 pm to
WE are a UNION, we are Staying a UNION.
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:23 pm to
They'd have to win a war against the United States first. So Id assume they could take Mexico after

US isn't letting anyone leave with our military tech. They would have to fight to keep it, if they were allowed to leave it would be without it and their chances against Mexico would not be as favorable
This post was edited on 8/23/17 at 4:26 pm
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:24 pm to
1. Yes. They could.

2. Maybe

3.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118566 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

1) Would Texas still use US currency or create their own.


If Texas were able to retain federal military assets that currently reside in Texas, then yeah, sure.

quote:

2) Technically they would be a foreign country, so would what this do to GOP in the electoral college.



38 electoral votes would be lost.

quote:

3) Since they are a border state, would conservatives finally stop complaining about immigration and focus on other issues, even if the lack of immigrants may not significantly effect the average working class persons life?



Conservatives are complaining about illegal immigration not necessarily legal immigration except when H1B visas are abused.
This post was edited on 8/23/17 at 4:59 pm
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:28 pm to
You can say hello to Texico.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78858 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:32 pm to
Just based on population alone
MX 127M
TX 28M

We'd get slaughtered That's 4 Messican baws on one Texican.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:33 pm to
quote:

37 electoral votes would be lost.


OUCH.

Is it possible the GOP could ever win another election with Texas?
Posted by ourkansastigah
behind enemy lines
Member since Feb 2015
342 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:34 pm to
With a Ft Hood tank battalion....without a doubt victory
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43318 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

Just based on population alone
MX 127M
TX 28M

We'd get slaughtered That's 4 Messican baws on one Texican.



You guys have an entire Infantry Division. Like I said, assuming it's peaceful and the US lets you guys keep your gear or sells it to you, you'd steamroll them.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
34928 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:36 pm to
not a shot. northern mexico would return to the mexicans. i mean shite, you drive around houston and you see more fricking spanish than english. pretty much is mexico at this point.

not to mention the mass amounts of messicants that already live behind enemy lines. they would be sabotaging everything before Hank Hill could fill a single propane tank.
This post was edited on 8/23/17 at 4:38 pm
Posted by TheFolker
Member since Aug 2011
5182 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:37 pm to
Does Texas keep its nuclear weapons?
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21855 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

Just based on population alone MX 127M TX 28M We'd get slaughtered That's 4 Messican baws on one Texican.




Texas has a lot of Nukes.

The Pantex Plant is the primary United States nuclear weapons assembly and disassembly facility that aims to maintain the safety, security and reliability of the nation’s nuclear weapons stockpile. The facility is located on a 16,000 acre site northeast of Amarillo, in Carson County, Texas in the Panhandle of Texas.
This post was edited on 8/23/17 at 4:40 pm
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77292 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

Just based on population alone
MX 127M
TX 28M

We'd get slaughtered That's 4 Messican baws on one Texican.


If we still fought in formations yes...but no...Texas would win...again...
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79936 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

You guys have an entire Infantry Division


Technically, it's an Armored Division (1st AD) and a Cavalry Division (1st Cav).
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78858 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

you'd steamroll them.


And they have

Beltrán-Leyva Cartel
La Familia Michoacana/Knights Templar Cartel
Gulf Cartel
Juárez Cartel
Sinaloa Cartel
Tijuana Cartel
Los Zetas

All locked, all loaded, all experienced in guerilla warfare. No muy bueno

And btw, this is assuming we are using only Texans and Mexicans, not infantrymen from any bases, etc.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48832 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:40 pm to
Mexico doesn't even have control of their own states outside of some heavily defended tourist areas and Mexico City.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:40 pm to
Personally, I see a split occuring. I dont see them keeping the south plains and the bottom half of the gulf coast.

And by 'no US support' I mean Texas has to field a military by itself.

People have to decide if they are going to be US soldiers stationed in Texas or Texas Republic Soldiers. You cant be a member of two different nations military power.

This post was edited on 8/23/17 at 4:43 pm
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