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Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:05 pm to
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:05 pm to
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Idk man, that's just like you're opinion.
I'd say that's everyone's opinion.

You're a progressive douche, accept it.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:06 pm to
It want a "big switch", but the republicans did convert a large percentage of Dixiecrats in the 70s and 80s with the southern strategy. It began as an overt appeal to racial bigotry and became more subtle into the 80s (war on drugs, stiffer penalties for "poor" drugs like crack, prohibitive voter registry processes, etc.)
Posted by AggieDub14
Oil Baron
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:07 pm to
Because I'm bringing up facts about history of political parties?
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14835 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:08 pm to
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Then why did Democrats fight the Civil Rights Act in 1964? Republicans got it passed....


And there you have it.

Blacks switched to democrats waaaay before the civil rights movement where democrats fought against them.
Posted by AggieDub14
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Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:09 pm to
Again, that was only the southern democrats. The southern Republicans fought it too.

I'll even repost this for you LINK
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 11:10 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69246 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:12 pm to
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but the republicans did convert a large percentage of Dixiecrats in the 70s and 80s with the southern strategy.
The data shows that the south was trending republican years before the southern strategy. Eisenhower made huge inroads in many southern states, and outright won Louisiana and Missouri in his elections. The south trending republican has lots of components. One of the big ones is the growth of suburbs. The south got suburbs long after the rest of the country did. Suburbs, complete with middle class families and white collar, service sector jobs, are ripe republican hotspots. The south became more suburban in the 60s and 70s.

But it's also not even factual that the south was solidly republican after that: Bill Clinton and Jimmy carter did very well in the south. Even Al gore did admirably.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:12 pm to
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Then why did Democrats fight the Civil Rights Act in 1964? Republicans got it passed....



Southern democrats fought it, the same southern democrats who were voting republican 10-20 years later.

The perception was that the Civil Rights act and the support LBJ/JFK gave to the movement was a betrayal, and the GOP exploited it.

Politically it was a smart move, as the south has been a GOP stronghold for nearly 40 years now.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:13 pm to
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I think someone is feeling guilty about remaining on the plantation.
Haaa. N-word please. I know the 'necks come to play at night. This isn't my first rodeo.

About to the Civil Rights Act. Some one of you geniuses must have read this by now. Good thing we had this massive demographic migration by which everyone down here moved up north and everyone up North moved down here. Har har har...

LINK

From earlier post.

quote:

Well aside from the factual inaccuracy of your post, you've glossed over the greater point--which, I suppose to some degree, goes to the heart of the thread. Almost ALL opposition to the bill, Republican or Democrat, came from ONE region. Outside the South the bill faired as follows: House GOP: 138-24 House Dem: 145-9 (somewhat stronger than the GOP vote, actually) Senate GOP: 27-5 Senate Dem: 45-1 (again, somewhat stronger than the GOP) Needless to say GOP support was very strong, but it was not unanimous. Now in the South: House GOP: 0-10 House Dem: 7-87 Senate GOP: 0-1 Senate Dem: 1-20 So though the bill enjoyed fairly strong support nation-wide, in no small part due to Johnson's political acumen, in the South, in both parties, it failed 7-97 in the House and 1-21 in the Senate. It was regional, not by party.
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 11:16 pm
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:14 pm to
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I'm funny as shite. Suck a dick.


Said only by you

Slavery wasn't a left/right issue. If it were we wouldn't have an immigration issue.

No one bitched about Chinese slavery in the west, did they?
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37472 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:15 pm to
Adios. Admins can still see edits
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69246 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:15 pm to
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Again, that was only the southern democrats. The southern Republicans fought it too.
Correct, the CRA went beyond politics. It was regionalism, yet you use it to bolster your argument that republicans were once "liberal". It's just not true.

Political parties before the 1970s were completely different beasts than what they are today. They were made up of hundreds of different groups, many of whom were opposed to each other. NYC jews and racist southerners were in the same convention hall for over 100 years.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37472 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:16 pm to
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Southern democrats fought it, the same southern democrats who were voting republican 10-20 years later.


Hardcore Southern democrats died hardcore southern Dems. If I'm not mistaken there are several studies on it. I'll try to find them
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:16 pm to
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Adios. Admins can still see edits
What. I edited to add the correct link to an earlier post and the data.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37472 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:17 pm to
You posted a link to spankb@ng you liar.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:17 pm to
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About to the Civil Rights Act. Some one of you geniuses must have read this by now. Good thing we had this massive demographic migration by which everyone down here moved up north and everyone up North moved down here. Har har har...


Why is black population so strong in the south?


You know why.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69246 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:17 pm to
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Southern democrats fought it, the same southern democrats who were voting republican 10-20 years later.
here is every southern demcoratic politician which voted against the CRA. Red indicates a aprty switch before they retired or died.

Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:18 pm to
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You posted a link to spankb@ng you liar.
If so that was completely accidental. Doesn't even fit the context.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:21 pm to
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Why is black population so strong in the south?


You know why.
Ummmm. Same as Italian and Irish in NYC, Chinese and Japanese on the West Coast, etc. Ordinary migratory/immigration patterns?
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 11:22 pm
Posted by AggieDub14
Oil Baron
Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:22 pm to
You are right. But if Republicans were made up of many groups, would it still be a stretch to say some were liberal?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69246 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:23 pm to
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But if Republicans were made up of many groups, would it still be a stretch to say some were liberal?


There are still liberal republicans. John McCain and Lindsay graham, for example. There are conservative demcrats too like jim webb.
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