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Mark Cuban: Use single payer to cover all chronic or life-threatening conditions
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:06 pm
quote:
Billionaire businessman Mark Cuban pitched his own plan to fix the Affordable Care Act on Wednesday, amid the House Republican effort to unravel the law.
He detailed the idea on his blog, Blog Maverick. It amounted to single payer coverage for chronic physical and mental illnesses and life-threatening injuries, and standard insurance for all other healthcare.
"Whether it's Medicaid or a new program, every single person in this country should be covered 100% for chronic physical or mental illness and for any life-threatening injury.
"The premiums that we are paying to insurance companies as individuals or as company coverage for these significant risks would go from the insurance companies to the IRS. Only the cost of covering the what’s left would continue being paid to the insurance companies.
"It would not be hard to do the math. Every insurance company does this analysis already. The government does this analysis already. We all would end up paying more in taxes, but less in insurance and healthcare costs over time.
"There would be no mandates. There would be no individual penalties. No tax credits. No subsidies. No offsets or deductions for buying higher end insurance. This will be single payer (yes I know it's a dirty phrase in this country) for chronic physical or mental illness and for any life threatening injury.
"Everything not covered by the above can be covered by insurance sold on the free market, managed by the states, sold across state lines, without government interference."
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Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:08 pm to Bench McElroy
The problem is that politicians would constantly shift the goal posts on what would qualify here to where there would be a point reached in which everything is covered by single payer
Kind of like the no guns for mentally ill argument. Definition of mentally ill would always be changed
Kind of like the no guns for mentally ill argument. Definition of mentally ill would always be changed
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:09 pm to Bench McElroy
quote:
"Whether it's Medicaid or a new program, every single person in this country should be covered 100% for chronic physical or mental illness and for any life-threatening injury.
Is obesity a chronic condition?
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:10 pm to Bench McElroy
It's a sliding slope to single payer....which means the average joe foots the bill anyway.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:10 pm to Bench McElroy
Sounds like he makes enough money to cover them all.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:11 pm to Bench McElroy
We should use single payer. Mark Cuban should be the single payer.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:11 pm to Bench McElroy
How about the federal government get out of the health insurance business and let the sates handle it. If the states want single payer, God bless'm.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:11 pm to Bench McElroy
Ques: Does he mean single-payer for what we used to call catastrophic insurance?
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:12 pm to MSMHater
quote:
Is obesity a chronic condition
Overweight people can get coverage.
And I think what the government determines is a chronic condition or not will change over time and eventually take over. This is a road to single payer and should be avoided.
One day a democratic majority will ensure that something ridiculous like plastic surgery for transsexuals get covered on the taxpayer's dime.
This post was edited on 3/9/17 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:13 pm to goldennugget
quote:
The problem is that politicians would constantly shift the goal posts on what would qualify here to where there would be a point reached in which everything is covered by single payer
This. It's policy incrementalism
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:13 pm to Bench McElroy
Being transgender would be categorized as life-threatening due to suicide risk.
Obesity would be a chronic physical condition.
Depression would be a chronic mental illness.
No thanks. Just cut taxes on the front end so that people can afford insurance.
Obesity would be a chronic physical condition.
Depression would be a chronic mental illness.
No thanks. Just cut taxes on the front end so that people can afford insurance.
This post was edited on 3/9/17 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:16 pm to Bench McElroy
quote:
This will be single payer (yes I know it's a dirty phrase in this country) for chronic physical or mental illness and for any life threatening injury.
There is zero chance for abuse here
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:16 pm to Bench McElroy
We should just get mark Cuban to cover all chronic and life threatening conditions.
He wants healthy tax payers to all pay for the sick and diseased.
Those who don't excercise eat healthy and take care of themselves. Nah how about health insurance is optional not mandated. And pricing is based on risk and open market and the government doesn't get involved. Aside to say that health insurances can't deny pre existing conditions or drop people .
Why should American incomes be hit to cover the expenses of those who are too dumb or uninformed to care for themselves.
He wants healthy tax payers to all pay for the sick and diseased.
Those who don't excercise eat healthy and take care of themselves. Nah how about health insurance is optional not mandated. And pricing is based on risk and open market and the government doesn't get involved. Aside to say that health insurances can't deny pre existing conditions or drop people .
Why should American incomes be hit to cover the expenses of those who are too dumb or uninformed to care for themselves.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:17 pm to Bench McElroy
Oh man. He has bronchitis. This could be potentially life threatening. Use your government allowance man.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:17 pm to Bench McElroy
This works only if you institute a new tax based on BMI and lifestyle choice factors, with twice yearly required physicals for everyone checking for signs of smoking, alcohol abuse, drug use.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:18 pm to Bench McElroy
That has got to be the most economically clueless , terribly incentivized plan yet
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:18 pm to Bench McElroy
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Mark Cuban: Use single payer to cover all chronic or life-threatening conditions
People in the 1960s said that medicaid would only cover less than 1 million people and be limited to very specific health issues.
They were full of shite then just like Cuban is full of shite right now.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:19 pm to MSMHater
quote:
Is obesity a chronic condition?
Heart disease? Diabetes? Cancer? Arthritis?
I think he'll find that the major cost is in these "chronic or life-threatening conditions".
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:23 pm to Bench McElroy
I think there's a huge disconnect in this country, especially millennials, about what the down side of any single payer system is. It's not the costs associated with single payer systems. In truth, it ends up being pretty close to a wash when you account for the additional taxes associated and having no insurance costs. It's the quality of care that suffers. You're putting a bureaucratic system in charge of your health care. At some point, they begin to weigh the cost/benefit of the services you want. That's the problem. It takes health care decisions out of the hands of the patient.
This post was edited on 3/9/17 at 3:25 pm
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