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Mark Cuban: Use single payer to cover all chronic or life-threatening conditions

Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:06 pm
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:06 pm
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Billionaire businessman Mark Cuban pitched his own plan to fix the Affordable Care Act on Wednesday, amid the House Republican effort to unravel the law.

He detailed the idea on his blog, Blog Maverick. It amounted to single payer coverage for chronic physical and mental illnesses and life-threatening injuries, and standard insurance for all other healthcare.

"Whether it's Medicaid or a new program, every single person in this country should be covered 100% for chronic physical or mental illness and for any life-threatening injury.

"The premiums that we are paying to insurance companies as individuals or as company coverage for these significant risks would go from the insurance companies to the IRS. Only the cost of covering the what’s left would continue being paid to the insurance companies.

"It would not be hard to do the math. Every insurance company does this analysis already. The government does this analysis already. We all would end up paying more in taxes, but less in insurance and healthcare costs over time.

"There would be no mandates. There would be no individual penalties. No tax credits. No subsidies. No offsets or deductions for buying higher end insurance. This will be single payer (yes I know it's a dirty phrase in this country) for chronic physical or mental illness and for any life threatening injury.

"Everything not covered by the above can be covered by insurance sold on the free market, managed by the states, sold across state lines, without government interference."


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Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:08 pm to
The problem is that politicians would constantly shift the goal posts on what would qualify here to where there would be a point reached in which everything is covered by single payer

Kind of like the no guns for mentally ill argument. Definition of mentally ill would always be changed
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
22774 posts
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

"Whether it's Medicaid or a new program, every single person in this country should be covered 100% for chronic physical or mental illness and for any life-threatening injury.


Is obesity a chronic condition?
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32087 posts
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:10 pm to
It's a sliding slope to single payer....which means the average joe foots the bill anyway.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:10 pm to
Sounds like he makes enough money to cover them all.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45194 posts
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:11 pm to
We should use single payer. Mark Cuban should be the single payer.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118604 posts
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:11 pm to
How about the federal government get out of the health insurance business and let the sates handle it. If the states want single payer, God bless'm.
Posted by GetBackToWork
Member since Dec 2007
6247 posts
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:11 pm to
Ques: Does he mean single-payer for what we used to call catastrophic insurance?
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32087 posts
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:12 pm to
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Is obesity a chronic condition


Overweight people can get coverage.

And I think what the government determines is a chronic condition or not will change over time and eventually take over. This is a road to single payer and should be avoided.

One day a democratic majority will ensure that something ridiculous like plastic surgery for transsexuals get covered on the taxpayer's dime.
This post was edited on 3/9/17 at 3:15 pm
Posted by McChowder
Hammond
Member since Dec 2006
5217 posts
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

The problem is that politicians would constantly shift the goal posts on what would qualify here to where there would be a point reached in which everything is covered by single payer

This. It's policy incrementalism
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
20844 posts
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:13 pm to
Being transgender would be categorized as life-threatening due to suicide risk.

Obesity would be a chronic physical condition.

Depression would be a chronic mental illness.

No thanks. Just cut taxes on the front end so that people can afford insurance.
This post was edited on 3/9/17 at 3:15 pm
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:14 pm to
genius
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

This will be single payer (yes I know it's a dirty phrase in this country) for chronic physical or mental illness and for any life threatening injury.


There is zero chance for abuse here
Posted by HailFreezusOver
Oxford
Member since Sep 2014
6223 posts
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:16 pm to
We should just get mark Cuban to cover all chronic and life threatening conditions.

He wants healthy tax payers to all pay for the sick and diseased.
Those who don't excercise eat healthy and take care of themselves. Nah how about health insurance is optional not mandated. And pricing is based on risk and open market and the government doesn't get involved. Aside to say that health insurances can't deny pre existing conditions or drop people .

Why should American incomes be hit to cover the expenses of those who are too dumb or uninformed to care for themselves.
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
12358 posts
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:17 pm to
Oh man. He has bronchitis. This could be potentially life threatening. Use your government allowance man.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19668 posts
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:17 pm to
This works only if you institute a new tax based on BMI and lifestyle choice factors, with twice yearly required physicals for everyone checking for signs of smoking, alcohol abuse, drug use.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23133 posts
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:18 pm to
That has got to be the most economically clueless , terribly incentivized plan yet
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

Mark Cuban: Use single payer to cover all chronic or life-threatening conditions



People in the 1960s said that medicaid would only cover less than 1 million people and be limited to very specific health issues.

They were full of shite then just like Cuban is full of shite right now.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56342 posts
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:19 pm to
quote:

Is obesity a chronic condition?



Heart disease? Diabetes? Cancer? Arthritis?

I think he'll find that the major cost is in these "chronic or life-threatening conditions".

Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4300 posts
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:23 pm to
I think there's a huge disconnect in this country, especially millennials, about what the down side of any single payer system is. It's not the costs associated with single payer systems. In truth, it ends up being pretty close to a wash when you account for the additional taxes associated and having no insurance costs. It's the quality of care that suffers. You're putting a bureaucratic system in charge of your health care. At some point, they begin to weigh the cost/benefit of the services you want. That's the problem. It takes health care decisions out of the hands of the patient.
This post was edited on 3/9/17 at 3:25 pm
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