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Making abortion a criminal offense would cause more unwanted children

Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:15 pm
Posted by Pecker
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:15 pm
From a moral standpoint, I'm not a supporter of babies being killed inside the womb. But if we're being honest, many abortions are carried out by people who cannot afford to have a child and probably should never have a child.

Why do we want our society to be burdened by more children who aren't going to be raised (in any meaningful way) by anyone?

Do we want abortion to be outlawed in some states because of the ethics argument alone? I guess I can accept that, but I think it's obvious what the consequences of that will be.

Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:17 pm to
This.

And why is it that most Christians believe a fetus is a person? It is because your preacher said so? Do you usually go to him for science questions?
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 1:18 pm
Posted by Manzielathon
Death Valley
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:17 pm to
Why is it so crazy to expect people in our society to be responsible human beings?
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32506 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:18 pm to
End "entitlements" and force these people to pay for their mistakes, and a promise you that "unwanted" pregnancies will stop.
Posted by gamatt53
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:18 pm to
Simpson's explained our feelings as a country pretty well years ago

LINK
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:18 pm to
Unwanted pregnancies lead to welfare spending. Fact.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

Why is it so crazy to expect people in our society to be responsible human beings?

If you find the answer please let me know.
Posted by ndtiger
vicksburg, ms
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:19 pm to
I think a fetus is a person and Im an Athiest
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:19 pm to
Why do you think this? I'm honestly curious. I'm a Christian and I think a fetus in the first trimester is not a living person.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 2:36 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50304 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

Making abortion a criminal offense would cause more unwanted children


Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25059 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:20 pm to
Criminalize unprotected sex by the unwed. Oh yeah, we can't do that any more because Kennedy woke up and decided that Lawrence v. Texas should overturn over 200 years of law and the balance of state power.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37295 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:20 pm to
i fully agree with your thinking on this.

i don't want abortion outlawed.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

Why do we want our society to be burdened by more children who aren't going to be raised (in any meaningful way) by anyone?


Yeah, they're better off dead right?

quote:

But if we're being honest, many abortions are carried out by people who cannot afford to have a child and probably should never have a child.


Many abortions are carried out because they're available. If you remove that option, perhaps men and women would be a little more cautious.
Posted by tke857
Member since Jan 2012
12195 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:21 pm to
if you and you're spouse dont make 100,000k a year then you should have penalties if you have over 2 kids. if you make under 50k household income you can only have 1 kid.
Posted by King Teal
The Last Banana Republic
Member since Sep 2016
988 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:21 pm to
No one cares about abortion except bible beaters who's emotions are easily played upon during election years.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64158 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:21 pm to
...and killing leads to more deaths.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30163 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

Do we want abortion to be outlawed in some states because of the ethics argument alone?


I would rather the citizens of those states decide for themselves.


Posted by AggieDub14
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Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:22 pm to
Are you seriously complaining that the Government isn't allowed to tell us how to act in the bedroom? What the frick is wrong with you?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84609 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

Unwanted pregnancies lead to welfare spending. Fact.


Jailing people for murder and rape is a significant cost to the government. Not everything is strictly about money.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:22 pm to
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Why is it so crazy to expect people in our society to be responsible human beings?


Because we've established so many safety nets for people who have never learned to act responsibly. There will never be any incentive for them to be responsible.

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