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Major Louisiana coastal restoration project won't get permits before 2022
Posted on 3/15/17 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 3/15/17 at 1:02 pm
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To which Johnny Bradberry, chairman of the state agency overseeing the master plan's projects, said: "Not acceptable. This train's coming down the track, and we're going to be blowing its horn big time."
Sounds like it maybe possible to expedite through Trump EO.
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 1:44 pm to FanInLA
I'm surprised DNR and LDWF haven't squandered all of that money on "research".
Posted on 3/15/17 at 1:45 pm to FanInLA
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Sounds like it maybe possible to expedite through Trump EO.
The same Donald Trump that doesn't seem to give a single frick about any kind of environmental issue? Who wants to completely eliminate the federal agency tasked with protecting the environment? That guy?
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 3/15/17 at 1:45 pm to MadtownTiger
We need more studies
Posted on 3/15/17 at 1:57 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Trump would be more of a conservationalist, which is someone more driven by results/experience. Whereas an Environmentalist is driven by emotions.
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:00 pm to ScottFowler
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Whereas an Environmentalist is driven by emotions.
Who told you that?
Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:00 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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The same Donald Trump that doesn't seem to give a single frick about any kind of environmental issue?
Oh, I see how that works. Just because you don't agree with the left on climate change (because they want to use it for wealth redistribution) that means you are against everything environmental.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:01 pm to GumboPot
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Oh, I see how that works. Just because you don't agree with the left on climate change (because they want to use it for wealth redistribution) that means you are against everything environmental.
That's not what I said at all. I'm talking about one person and certain members of his administration.
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because they want to use it for wealth redistribution
where do y'all come up with this stuff?This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:02 pm to FanInLA
Would dredging and pumping in Gulf sediment be more cost effective than diverting Mississippi River sediment?
Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:18 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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where do y'all come up with this stuff?
If you cant' see where this is all going...
There are two main factions that promote climate change in terms of "we need to do something about it". The left (because they have a natural tendency to grow government and redistribute wealth) and Wall Street (because they want to play broker between the federal government and the energy companies and make money).
If carbon taxes are implemented the federal government will have a new tax revenue source. They will sell carbon credits to energy producers that emit CO2 as a byproduct of energy production. Wall Street firms will be the broker between the federal governmetn and energy producing companies and collect their brokerage fees and make big dollars (that's why Hank Paulson with Goldman Sachs are promoting this). The cost of energy will rise due to new taxes and poor people will then be subsidized (wealth redistribution) to offset the higher energy cost.
The irony of all this is once the federal government grabs on to this new tax revenue source, Wall Street is making money off of carbon credits, poor people are receiving energy subsides there will no incentive for the federal government to promote fossil fuel free energy sources.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:26 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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The same Donald Trump that doesn't seem to give a single frick about any kind of environmental issue? Who wants to completely eliminate the federal agency tasked with protecting the environment? That guy?
You do get that a large part of the hold up on coastal projects IS the environmental review, right?
So yeah, I think Trump would be just fine streamlining that process.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:31 pm to GumboPot
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Oh, I see how that works. Just because you don't agree with the left on climate change (because they want to use it for wealth redistribution) that means you are against everything environmental.
No. Trump is showing us that he is not environmental. With his actions.
Who in the hell doesn't want better fuel economy in the future?
Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:58 pm to FanInLA
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Who in the hell doesn't want better fuel economy in the future?
No one if it means driving around in tin cans with no horsepower.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 4:05 pm to FanInLA
Of course it won't get permits before 2022.
Because no one in power takes coastal restoration seriously. Not the Corps of Engineers, who care about nothing other than the River's navigation, not the federal government, where Kenya probably carries more influence than Louisiana, and not even the Louisiana capitol building where lawmakers would raid the Restore Act money in a heartbeat if they could.
The only people who take it seriously are the people of Louisiana, who see our land washing away every day, and are frustrated with the inaction and bullshite associated with with it.
fricking typical.
Because no one in power takes coastal restoration seriously. Not the Corps of Engineers, who care about nothing other than the River's navigation, not the federal government, where Kenya probably carries more influence than Louisiana, and not even the Louisiana capitol building where lawmakers would raid the Restore Act money in a heartbeat if they could.
The only people who take it seriously are the people of Louisiana, who see our land washing away every day, and are frustrated with the inaction and bullshite associated with with it.
fricking typical.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 4:08 pm to FanInLA
It will never be ready in time.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 4:23 pm to GumboPot
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The left (because they have a natural tendency to grow government and redistribute wealth)
right, it couldn't possibly be that they want to, I don't know, preserve the planet for future generations. Always a conspiracy with some of you
Posted on 3/15/17 at 5:14 pm to GumboPot
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Would dredging and pumping in Gulf sediment be more cost effective than diverting Mississippi River sediment?
Doubtful, they'd have to go deep to get it AND it would be saturated with salt which would kill the plant life in the marshes.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 5:24 pm to FanInLA
quote:I'm gonna throw this out there, but before I do, I applaud the people behind the effort and the dedication that's involved.
Because no one in power takes coastal restoration seriously.
That said, can you really stop Mother Nature from doing here thing when she sets her mind to it. Is it a lost cause from the get-go? I mean... the Gulf of Mexico. How can you possibly win that fight? In addition, should we play God by altering nature on such a grand scale or simply deal with it and adapt - like we've been doing for thousands of years. Food for thought.
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 3/15/17 at 5:43 pm to GumboPot
Dredge and full marsh creation is largely done with MS river dredge material
Posted on 3/15/17 at 7:44 pm to FanInLA
Yea let's spend billions of dollars to make sure private land is fixed up. So they can have an oil company come back through and dig out another canal. That is exactly what they are doing. Rich land holders are getting major property improvement first due to good Ole boy politics.
Private land should be last in line for those that decide to block access to the bays and lakes from public access. Want public money they allow public access to the tidal water. If they allow access put them back at the front.
Private land should be last in line for those that decide to block access to the bays and lakes from public access. Want public money they allow public access to the tidal water. If they allow access put them back at the front.
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