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Liberals are doing exactly what conservatives did in 2009 re confirmation bias
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:14 am
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:14 am
They had a preconceived idea that trump would be a horrible president and find the facts and articles that fit their prediction.
Like conservatives, they will by 2020 think he is such a horrible failure, because of this selective reading and watching, that they can't even ponder the idea of him being reelected
Like conservatives, they will by 2020 think he is such a horrible failure, because of this selective reading and watching, that they can't even ponder the idea of him being reelected
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Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:15 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Literally every tangerine and a want thread supports your OP
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:15 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Yes, but conservatives don't burn down stuff and resort to mob violence when they lose. At least not yet.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:16 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Except Obama WAS fricking godawful...
.... as Trump is as well.
.... as Trump is as well.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:16 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Yeah. Obama's presidency didn't start off quite this shakily, though. And he was far more popular. The president needs to lay off twitter and red meat bullshite and set about governing. Start moving some major legislation through Congress. Someone should tell him it doesn't typically get easier as time wears on.
This post was edited on 2/4/17 at 10:18 am
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:19 am to Navytiger74
Maybe libertarianism will become "cool" again if this administration isn't all that it's cracked up to be?
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:19 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
I've been saying this constantly for months. Nice to hear a conservative admit it.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:20 am to Paul Allen
quote:Probably.
Maybe libertarianism will become "cool" again if this administration isn't all that it's cracked up to be?
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:25 am to Navytiger74
quote:
Yeah. Obama's presidency didn't start off quite this shakily, though. And he was far more popular. The president needs to lay off twitter and red meat bull shite and set about governing. Start moving some major legislation through Congress. Someone should tell him it doesn't typically get easier as time wears on.
My instinctive and initial reaction was to agree with this, but I am kind of like Ryan. The Twitter thing is growing on me. It is breaking loose the highly wordsmithed discourse constraints that make governing so tedious.
Businesses run better with decisive and action-driven leadership. Why shouldn't government? We sit around and spend so much time and money worrying about saying the right thing, instead of just moving forward and adjusting as we go. Clearly, there is a limit to this, especially with international relations, but I am tired of all the reticence and "gotcha" that come with parsing everything you say.
I really liked when Trump cut through the argument about semantics that Spicer had gotten into. Call it a ban, call it whatever you want. Let's talk about what it is intended to do and how it will do it, and we will fix implementation issues (e.g., green card holders) when they come up.
This post was edited on 2/4/17 at 10:27 am
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:26 am to Ag Zwin
Just look at how unstable the world is and how our enemies expanded their influence under Obamas "Nero Policy". He was not very good.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:31 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:37 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
Like conservatives, they will by 2020 think he is such a horrible failure
I agree, and I think that's going to be the logical conclusion of any rational person.
He'll be a one-term wonder (if he even makes it that far).
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:39 am to Ag Zwin
quote:But the words mean something. That should be more abundantly clear now than ever. If he didn't frame it as a ban during the campaign and Giuliani hadn't framed it as a ban a couple of weeks ago, the conversation might be slightly different. Not entirely, but I imagine that the president would be on firmer ground--both legally and politically. Decisive action is typically rewarded in government as in business--but it has to be competently executed.
Businesses run better with decisive and action-driven leadership. Why shouldn't government? We sit around and spend so much time and money worrying about saying the right thing, instead of just moving forward and adjusting as we go. Clearly, there is a limit to this, especially with international relations, but I am tired of all the reticence and "gotcha" that come with parsing everything you say.
EOs need to be coordinated through every agency that will have equities in their execution. The experts in those offices can tell you on a practical level what's doable, difficult, impractical, etc within the order. Then they need to pass legal muster through the Counsel's office. That's how that works. It's not just some shite your inner circle draws up on an afternoon. Apparently he thought that's what Obama and presidents were doing.
This post was edited on 2/4/17 at 10:46 am
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:42 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
And conservatives are doing the same thing liberals did in 2009, ignoring all of Trump's overreach and merrily supporting their god emperor down the primrose path of further consolidation of power in the executive branch.
This post was edited on 2/4/17 at 10:44 am
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:43 am to WildTchoupitoulas
Oh, the old "anyone who doesn't think like me is irrational"
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:43 am to Ag Zwin
quote:
Businesses run better with decisive and action-driven leadership. Why shouldn't government
Because we have a President not a King
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:46 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
But conservatives on this board even now dont think that congress was wrong in their handling of Obama... Except those few times they compromised with him. They hated that shite.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:48 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:A president can lead. It's been a long time since one did.
Because we have a President not a King
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:50 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
They had a preconceived idea that trump would be a horrible president and find the facts and articles that fit their prediction.
Like conservatives, they will by 2020 think he is such a horrible failure, because of this selective reading and watching, that they can't even ponder the idea of him being reelected
which part of Trump's presidency has been better than a disaster?
-redefined the meaning of facts
-wasted almost a week on the size of his inauguration crowd
- signed an eo that makes the us looks like a bunch of xenophobes (that doesn't help National security btw) that is being struck down
- continues to tweet about his former "reality" show (so presidential)
- fricked up meeting with mexico's president
- attacked the Australian PM (bout time somebody stood up to Australia!)
- lied multiple times in the first few days destroying his administration's credibility
- had to ram through his nominees
What are the "good" parts?
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:50 am to Ag Zwin
quote:
Businesses run better with decisive and action-driven leadership. Why shouldn't government? We sit around and spend so much time and money worrying about saying the right thing, instead of just moving forward and adjusting as we go. Clearly, there is a limit to this, especially with international relations, but I am tired of all the reticence and "gotcha" that come with parsing everything you say.
I agree we should have monarchy, it would be much more efficient. Just like employees in a business have no say in how the business is run by its executives, we should get rid of all this liberal voting bullcrap, checks and balances, etc. and just let the CEO of our country handle things as he sees fit. KING TRUMP!
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