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Large Companies Asking Employees for PAC Donations
Posted on 5/12/17 at 9:59 am
Posted on 5/12/17 at 9:59 am
I'm not really comfortable with this. Why does a huge company with billions in profit need to ask their employees to donate to their political cause?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 10:00 am to AggieDub14
Tons of big corps do it, but yeah its borderline money laundering
Posted on 5/12/17 at 10:01 am to AggieDub14
My company never did this that I know of. My union, now that's another story.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 10:02 am to jamboybarry
I didn't realize it was a thing. It was brought up in a meeting this morning. They also mentioned a 'charitable match' which I had to throw out "A PAC is not a charity..." Probably should have just kept my mouth shut.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 10:04 am to AggieDub14
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Why does a huge company with billions in profit need to ask their employees to donate to their political cause?
No idea, but why can't companies just remain apolitical?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 10:05 am to idlewatcher
Well my industry is heavily regulated. So naturally they want to support politicians that are good for the industry. I just don't want them to drop this on me in a meeting.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 10:05 am to idlewatcher
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No idea, but why can't companies just remain apolitical?
Do you even crony capitalism bro?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 10:06 am to idlewatcher
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but why can't companies just remain apolitical?
Because there are government mandates to practically every business in existence. Many of the businesses don't like all of or any of the mandates so they want political power to change them.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 10:08 am to AggieDub14
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I'm not really comfortable with this. Why does a huge company with billions in profit need to ask their employees to donate to their political cause?
What is said companies profit margin? What are their expenses?
FWIW, i don't see a problem with it. They aren't demanding or telling people "donate or your fired". If the company you work for faces heavy regulation that would cost the company employees, i would think that company has a duty to inform their employees of that. And that voting for/against said legislation or person will end up affecting your job, not because of retribution by the employer, but due to regulations/taxes enacted upon said company and cost cutting needed to maintain the same profit margin.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 10:09 am to Homesick Tiger
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Because there are government mandates to practically every business in existence. Many of the businesses don't like competition so they lobby to use the mandates to create advantages in the "marketplace".
FIFY
Posted on 5/12/17 at 10:18 am to idlewatcher
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No idea, but why can't companies just remain apolitical?
Because companies aren't affected by government at all!!!!!
Posted on 5/12/17 at 10:45 am to AggieDub14
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I'm not really comfortable with this. Why does a huge company with billions in profit need to ask their employees to donate to their political cause?
No kidding! I used to get asked monthly. And the main thing they lobby for is increased H1Bs. frick that.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:13 am to AggieDub14
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Why does a huge company with billions in profit need to ask their employees to donate to their political cause?
Because corporate dollars can't be used to directly support candidates for federal offices. More simply, your large company can't make political contributions to candidates for Congress... it's illegal.
What is legal is creating a PAC connected to the company, which is funded by contributions from employees (and not corporate dollars), and then using the PAC dollars to support candidates for federal office.
PACs are also sometimes the only (or the preferred) legal vehicle to make contributions to candidates for state offices.
Your participation in the PAC is completely voluntary if you work for a corporation -- it's illegal for your company to force or try to coerce you into joining.
And the charity match (if you join the PAC, your company will match your voluntary contribution with corporate money directed toward a charity) is a somewhat common approach that companies use to help motivate employees to join the PAC. Nothing scandalous about that tactic.
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 11:20 am
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:17 am to AggieDub14
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I'm not really comfortable with this
Me either
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Why does a huge company with billions in profit need to ask their employees to donate to their political cause?
Better to spend our money vs their money
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:17 am to AggieDub14
I know a dude who made a sizeable donation to his company's PAC and got laid off 3 months later.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:18 am to AggieDub14
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I'm not really comfortable with this. Why does a huge company with billions in profit need to ask their employees to donate to their political cause
Well, at least they ask. Unions just take it.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:21 am to BugAC
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FWIW, i don't see a problem with it. They aren't demanding or telling people "donate or your fired".
Even if it's never said out loud, is it reasonable to wonder if non-participation affects your prospects?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:23 am to AggieDub14
Nothing comes close to what unions are able to do with the dues workers are forced to pay in some states.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:24 am to DallasTiger
If corporate dollars can't go to the PAC then how can they match my donation? And how can they legally refer to it as charitable?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:32 am to AggieDub14
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I'm not really comfortable with this. Why does a huge company with billions in profit need to ask their employees to donate to their political cause?
when i worked for the school system, they pretty much did the same thing when it came to bonds and "in district charities."
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