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Kaiser Family Foundation President: Insurance deductibles to sharply rise under Trumpcare

Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:03 pm
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27250 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:03 pm
Sounds like Trumpcare care is going to be a lot shittier than Obamacare


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Republicans like Donald Trump and Mitch McConnell have often pointed to the high insurance deductibles that Americans face under Obamacare as evidence of the health reform law's failure. This has always been an awkward and transparently cynical line of attack, since basically every replacement plan Republicans have floated over the years has been designed to allow insurers to sell cut-rate coverage with even higher deductibles. This is no less true of the proposal now making its way through the House of Representatives, which is designed to let carriers sell plans that cover less of their customers' health costs.

And so, in the brave new world of Trumpcare, average deductibles are almost certainly going to go up. In a column at Axios, Kaiser Family Foundation President Drew Altman estimates that the deductible in a “typical plan” will rise about $1,550, from $2,150 to to $4,100. He bases this calculation on the Congressional Budget Office's projection that the average “actuarial value” of insurance plans on the individual market—how much of customers' expenses they cover, on average—will fall from 72 percent to 65 percent.


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Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48838 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:04 pm to
Melt
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259875 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:04 pm to
So it's no different than Obamacare
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73210 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:04 pm to
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27250 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:05 pm to
quote:

Melt


I'm not melting.

I've already states I hope it passes because the backlash against the GOP will be epic. Why would I melt?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123776 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:05 pm to
quote:

So it's no different than Obamacare
Except you don't have to buy it.
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27250 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:06 pm to
quote:

So it's no different than Obamacare


Looks like it's gonna be worse.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
36666 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:06 pm to
They had already risen exponentially because of Obamacare.

Thanks for leading the charge for opposing Trumpcare and instead completely repealing Obamacare
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 10:56 pm
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30262 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:06 pm to
It will get fixed
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259875 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:07 pm to
quote:

I've already states I hope it passes because the backlash against the GOP will be epic. Why would I melt?


No one will care . People don't keep up with this stuff. They'll believe whatever the media tells them to believe

Obamacare didn't sink the Dems, their idiotic moral pandering to minority groups did
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28088 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:10 pm to
For those keeping score, KFF is non-partisan in the same way NPR is. They've been some loyal supporters of Obamacare while hiding behind that veil.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 10:11 pm
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27250 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:11 pm to
quote:

Except you don't have to buy it.


Meh, you don't have to buy it now.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40087 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:15 pm to
quote:

Kaiser Family Foundation President: Insurance deductibles to sharply rise under Trumpcare
Sounds like Trumpcare care is going to be a lot shittier than Obamacare


Why would anyone with a brain or without a brain trust KFF's numbers? They miscalculated the ACA's and medicaid expansion every single time they made a prediction.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:20 pm to
quote:

e Congressional Budget Office's projection that the average “actuarial value” of insurance plans on the individual market—how much of customers' expenses they cover, on average—will fall from 72 percent to 65 percent.
Maybe I'm having a reading issue here, but who are "they?" The insurers, or the customers? Even if insurers are covering less, obviously something is offsetting the purported deductible rise, because that difference is far less than the deductible difference.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 10:22 pm
Posted by TakeAGander
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
557 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:20 pm to
Currently our family deductible has gone up along with our premiums. I currently have 2 deductible options. I'm so sick of this damn so called health insurance. Between monthly premiums, coninsurance, and deductible we will have paid $20,000 for the latest little one born in February. Affordable health care act hahahahahaha!! I truly despise some of our politicians.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123776 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:22 pm to
quote:

Meh, you don't have to buy it now.
In the same way you can choose to speed through a school zone with a cop at roadside. You technically can do it. But you will be stopped and fined severely. Just as you can yell "bomb" at the airport. It won't end well if you do. But you technically can do it. Practically speaking YOU DON'T.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:13 pm to
What did the Kaisers say about insurance deductibles under the UNaffordable Care Act?
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:17 pm to
So, I have higher car and home deductibles than most, so I can pay less a month

Whats the problem?


(just plan on saving up so that each time you have to go to the ER to have a gerbil removed from your anus, you can meet your dedcutible)
Posted by McChowder
Hammond
Member since Dec 2006
5217 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:39 pm to
quote:

(just plan on saving up so that each time you have to go to the ER to have a gerbil removed from your anus, you can meet your dedcutible)

$6,000 for non-smokers.

It would be cheaper to pay the penalty and purchase catastrophic insurance thats how big a turd the "affordable" care act is.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:42 pm to
No one on the Democrat side GAF that we went from 10% of insured people with a deductible of $1000 or greater to over 50% of people insured with a deductible of over $1000 under Ocare. So I'm not going to GAF about this.
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