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Joint's Chiefs - No modifications to transgender policy until further direction

Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:08 am
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:08 am
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“There will be no modifications to the current policy until the president’s direction has been received by the secretary of defense and the secretary has issued implementation guidance,” Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Joseph Dunford wrote in a letter.


#Winning
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
47867 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:09 am to
Did you expect them to just take the text of the tweet? This is a procedure issue. Not the win you think it is.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69215 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:10 am to
So the ban will take place once the pentagon receives orders.

What do you think this means?
Posted by Cruiserhog
Little Rock
Member since Apr 2008
10460 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:10 am to
you forgot to mention Trump, the dumbass that he is, didnt tell his joint chiefs he was doing this, they and the pentagon was completely blindsided by this. so he lied when he said he had talked to generals.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69215 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:10 am to
quote:

Did you expect them to just take the text of the tweet? This is a procedure issue. Not the win you think it is.
Exactly.

Literally the first paragraph of the article he linked.

Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:11 am to
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Did you expect them to just take the text of the tweet?
im fully confident that trump did expect that, yes. because he has no idea what hes doing.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24598 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:12 am to
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Hawkeye95


quote:

#Winning



If you're for not giving folks all hopped up on hormones guns and ammo, then yes, this is winning.

Posted by RIPMachoMan
Member since Jun 2011
5926 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:12 am to
I still find it hard to believe T's in the military has been a substantial issue. I do understand the argument for banning them, but how big of an issue is it really?

Is the shite storm coverage of the topic worth it?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69215 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:12 am to
quote:

so he lied when he said he had talked to generals.
Educate yourself

The military has been actively studying the transgender policy over the past few months.
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:12 am to
Based on statements from Mattis & Dunford, it seems like they weren't the ones who made the recommendation. After re-reading Trump's statement, that seems all the more likely.

"After consultations with my Generals and 'military experts'"

Not experts in the military, but rather, "military experts"...that could be anyone. Especially in this white house, where Seb Gorka is considered an expert.

Feels more and more like a political move rather than a military strategy based decision.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:13 am to
The President is the Conmander-in-Chief and should be allowed to run his military the way he wants.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
10946 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:13 am to
Why are you such an idiot?
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9414 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:13 am to
quote:

you forgot to mention Trump, the dumbass that he is, didnt tell his joint chiefs he was doing this, they and the pentagon was completely blindsided by this. so he lied when he said he had talked to generals.


"It was a military decision"
Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
6124 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:13 am to
quote:

The military has been actively studying the transgender policy over the past few months.


Link?
Posted by Paluka
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
10763 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:14 am to
"About 250 troops have officially come out as transgender since the Obama administration lifted the ban on transgender troops in 2016."

This lifted ban was never implemented by Obama or Trump. Mattis stated it would not be implemented until they looked at it further. Mattis said this a month ago.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146370 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:15 am to
This is just SOP a needed procedure of most likely paper work and of course red tape-- is awaiting SECDEF. I suppose Mattis and others have to factor in whether current AD trannies are grandfathered in? As well as, a lot of specific policies and regulations.
This post was edited on 7/27/17 at 11:17 am
Posted by Cruiserhog
Little Rock
Member since Apr 2008
10460 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:16 am to
quote:

The military has been actively studying the transgender policy over the past few months.


educate yourself.

Mattis told Trump he needed 6 more months to get acclimated to the subject and his new position as SEC of D and then we could deal with it.
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:18 am to
quote:

Is the shite storm coverage of the topic worth it?


the shite storm coverage is the point of it.
Posted by RIPMachoMan
Member since Jun 2011
5926 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:20 am to
quote:

the shite storm coverage is the point of it.


Not following. If they wanted the coverage to continue, they would not have sent out a statement regarding the new policy not even existing yet.
Posted by Paluka
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
10763 posts
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:20 am to
Mattis stated in a memo "After consulting with the service chiefs and secretaries, I have determined that it is necessary to defer the start of accessions for six months," Mattis said in a memo that was sent Friday to the service chiefs and secretaries and was obtained by The Associated Press. "We will use this additional time to evaluate more carefully the impact of such accessions on readiness and lethality."

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