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Jimmy Kimmel: GOP Senator ‘Lied Right To My Face’ About Healthcare Reform

Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:45 am
Posted by tigerinDC09
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Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:45 am
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Late-night TV host Jimmy Kimmel has found himself mired in the current health care debate due to a moving monologue he gave a few months ago about his infant son’s heart condition. Kimmel used his remarks to call on President Trump and Republicans to not get rid of protections for pre-existing conditions.

Kimmel’s emotional reaction to the health care his son received led to Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-LA) declaring that any health care bill the GOP passed should pass what he called the “Jimmy Kimmel test,” which in his opinion meant that no family should be denied necessary medical care, even if they couldn’t afford it. Now that the Graham-Cassidy Bill now has a possibility of passing the Senate, however, Kimmel noted that the Louisiana lawmaker lied when doing his “publicity tour” about health care earlier in the year.


I know, muh Hollywood liberals. But Kimmel is right, this bill allows insurance companies to charge thru the roof for pre-existing conditions.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:47 am to
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Jimmy Kimmel: GOP Senator ‘Lied Right To My Face’


Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:47 am to
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which in his opinion meant that no family should be denied necessary medical care, even if they couldn’t afford it.


This was the case before Obamacare.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:47 am to
Did he say that is Democrat senator and his Democrat president lied to his face also? I don't think so. Kimmel's a hack.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:48 am to
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This was the case before Obamacare.


This is not true. Insurance comapanies could flat out deny coverage for pre-existing conditions.
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 7:49 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:50 am to
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But Kimmel is right, this bill allows insurance companies to charge thru the roof for pre-existing conditions.


If you don't allow the market to price risk, you might as well go UK-model. Splitting the baby never works well.

If I can't charge you for pre-existing conditions, then there is no incentive for you to get health insurance until you get sick. Thus, that's not insurance at all. That's forced cost sharing.

Now, if you want to subsidize that, that's a different question - but as for the market, pricing the risk pool is exactly the right thing in capitalism.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118636 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:51 am to
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This is not true. Insurance comapanies could flat out deny coverage for pre-existing conditions.



Link to where Jimmy said anything about insurance?

He said, "denied necessary medical care".

Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89476 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:52 am to
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He said, "denied necessary medical care".


No one is denied life-saving medical care in the United States - citizens, illegal dreamers, homeless folks, butchers, bakers, candlestick makers - no one.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12506 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:53 am to
That's why you get a job with a decent size company. I have always had to have a job at a decent size company so my pre-existing injury would be cover. People need to grow up and start doing what's best for them and not expect someone else to always help them . I want to back to insurance before Obamacare.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17473 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:54 am to
Do you understand the concept of insurance?

It's a private entity that looks to make money by having other people give them money and hopefully never have to pay a claim or a benefit. If claims and benefit costs are incurred by the insurance company, premiums get raised.

Not everyone can afford the best auto Insurance, homeowners insurance, disability insurance, medical insurance, life insurance plans available. Should the government run all insurance companies?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118636 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:56 am to
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f you don't allow the market to price risk, you might as well go UK-model. Splitting the baby never works well.

If I can't charge you for pre-existing conditions, then there is no incentive for you to get health insurance until you get sick. Thus, that's not insurance at all. That's forced cost sharing.

Now, if you want to subsidize that, that's a different question - but as for the market, pricing the risk pool is exactly the right thing in capitalism.




What the left wants is equal shitty treatment for the masses. In socialist counties you have basically a two tiered system; a substandard medical system for the 99% and a state of the art medical system for the 1% who pay cash. This is what the left wants.

Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68030 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:57 am to
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this bill allows insurance companies to charge thru the roof for pre-existing conditions.

As it should be.
Posted by schexyoung
Deaf Valley
Member since May 2008
6534 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:58 am to
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this bill allows insurance companies to charge thru the roof for pre-existing conditions.


So it allows

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insurance companies


to underwrite and price risks?! No way! How is that possible?


Have you ever underwritten an insurance policy, a loan, etc? What you really want is a guarantee that someone else will pay for medical bills regardless of risks.
Posted by Tiger Lake
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Member since Dec 2016
1254 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:58 am to
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Jimmy Kimmel


Screw Kimmel and the rest of the Hollywood elite. These fricks think they know what concerns the average American....they think the average American listens to what they have to say.....

frick KIMMEL AND HOLLYWOOD!!
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98453 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:59 am to
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If you don't allow the market to price risk, you might as well go UK-model. Splitting the baby never works well


This is correct.

Plus, the block grant plan allows for Jimmy and his Hollywood buddies to pressure Sacramento to include this in their state level plans.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 7:59 am to
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Do you understand the concept of insurance? It's a private entity that looks to make money by having other people give them money and hopefully never have to pay a claim or a benefit. If claims and benefit costs are incurred by the insurance company, premiums get raised. Not everyone can afford the best auto Insurance, homeowners insurance, disability insurance, medical insurance, life insurance plans available. Should the government run all insurance companies?



I'm perfectly ok with Cassidy making the argument for why people who are sick should pay more for insurance... This is not what's he's doing...

He's lying by saying that more people will be covered and that people will be paying less.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17473 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 8:00 am to
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But Kimmel is right, this bill allows insurance companies to charge thru the roof for pre-existing conditions


Again, do you understand how Insurance works?

If you have multiple DUIs should you be allowed to drive? Should your insurance premiums be higher? Because your pre-existing condition states that you're an irresponsible and dangerous driver?

If you build a house in a flood prone area, should you have to pay for flood insurance or should others cover your expenses when you are flooded?
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 8:01 am to
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That's why you get a job with a decent size company. I have always had to have a job at a decent size company so my pre-existing injury would be cover. People need to grow up and start doing what's best for them and not expect someone else to always help them . I want to back to insurance before Obamacare.


Yeah so if you have a kid born with a heart defect, you get to go bankrupt to ensure he has life saving coverage. But hey you're a grown up so you can handle it?
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17473 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 8:01 am to
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He's lying by saying that more people will be covered and that people will be paying less


Are you talking about Obama?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123776 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 8:03 am to
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But Kimmel is right
No he isn't. He is completely clueless, and unfortunately malignant in his ignorance.
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