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Hasn't Obama dismissed American Exceptionalism fairly consistently?
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democracy
Despicable.
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human rights
We aren't saints either.


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there is no grey area or relativism in the way in which we would exceptionally rape russia in a conventional war

murica!


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there is no grey area or relativism in the way in which we would exceptionally rape russia in a conventional war
The fact that you think in those terms, makes Putin right.


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re: Jay Carney: Slams Russia on American Exceptionalism
Google Georgia, Azerbaijan, and a few other Islamic portions of the former Soviet Union under Putins directions.


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Well the current American system has around 70 years of slavery in its history.

Incarceration of tens of thousands of Japanese-Americans.

The only two uses of nuclear weapons on a population.

3 major invasions in the last 40 years.

And...


Tuskegee


Trail of Tears


Should I go on?

Philippine–American War genocide

Tax-payer funded holocaust of Native Americans

Abu Ghraib

...


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The fact that you think in those terms, makes Putin right.


much you have to learn of the dark side


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You can't honestly debate this with a straight face as people like Gary Kasparov risk their lives speaking out against Putin.
We're certainly better on freedom of the press. Quite a bit better.


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re: Jay Carney: Slams Russia on American Exceptionalism
Speak out here politically and the IRS investigates you


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acgeaux129
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re: Jay Carney: Slams Russia on American Exceptionalism
Those are all rather minor for the most economically successful and militarily powerful country in the history of the world.


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Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Rummel



Lets debate mass murder of civilians, human rights etc
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Google Georgia, Azerbaijan, and a few other Islamic portions of the former Soviet Union under Putins directions.


What's your point? The Russian government sucks? Yea, nobody is arguing that.


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re: Jay Carney: Slams Russia on American Exceptionalism
We have 2 statist at the table but one is a lightweight.

Obama has lamented that he does not have the top-down authority like a Putin or the Chinese Premier. This would destroy American exceptionalism.

Given the chance, he would assume this level of authority if he could, but our system has just enough brakes left to slow down the power grab.





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Blue Velvet
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re: Jay Carney: Slams Russia on American Exceptionalism
And you'll find neither have room to talk.


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And you'll find neither have room to talk.


No, I find it deplorable the comparison of the two countries.

It's weak sauce...


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And you'll find neither have room to talk.
Slavery never comes up for liberals when we aren't talking about black people

I guess it stops being a major atrocity based on the offended party being addressed.


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But the fact is that Russia offers a stark contrast that demonstrates why America is exceptional.


Carney is absurd, a belief in American Exceptionalism isn't proven by our still having a superior system of governance to Russia,

Our supposed Exceptionalism is what was giving the arse clown Obama the right to dismiss international law and to bomb a sovereign state for reasons only he really knows.

A similar domestic argument of exceptionalism could be made by one group or another of Americans over another group for better performance or better values, such differences do not make one group superior to another in the eyes of the law.

Nothing exceptional about Obama's lies or foreign policy either.

Carney is using a red herring to support the trash we have in the Oval Office.


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Blue Velvet
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re: Jay Carney: Slams Russia on American Exceptionalism
True. Our holocaust ended so soon because we ran out of people to scalp and behead.


acgeaux129
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re: Jay Carney: Slams Russia on American Exceptionalism
It's pretty wild that we conquer countries that surprise attack us and our interests, help them set up governments, and then leave. No one is claiming that the US is perfect, so bringing up shite like the My Lai massacre or Japanese internment camps is a bit of a futile exercise. You are talking about a society that is run by people with an IQ of 100 and has the same basic human qualities/characteristics of the rest of the world. We are a pretty benevolent fricking empire all things considered.


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