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Jane Roe dies at the age of 69
Posted on 2/18/17 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 2/18/17 at 3:59 pm
The child she was trying to abort ended up being 2 1/2 years old by the time the Supreme Court ruling occurred. Nothing is known about the child since it was given up for adoption. It would be interesting to know about the child's life.
Jane Doe
Jane Doe
Posted on 2/18/17 at 4:01 pm to Ramblin Wreck
Jane ended up being a pro-life activist for much of her adult life.
Posted on 2/18/17 at 4:04 pm to Ramblin Wreck
quote:it was allowed to live?
The child she was trying to abort ended up being 2 1/2 years old by the time the Supreme Court ruling occurred
the decision wasn't retroactive?
Posted on 2/18/17 at 4:05 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Jane ended up being a pro-life activist for much of her adult life.
And the lawyers and liberal activists representing her didn't give a shite as she was just a vehicle to get abortion legalized via judicial fiat.
Mind you, I'm not in favor of abortion being illegal and want the Roe decision to be left alone but how it happened and how it came to be and how the ruling justices decided it was an atrocity.
Posted on 2/18/17 at 4:06 pm to Sentrius
The truth is that behind closed doors, even liberal judicial scholars and lawyers admit it is one of the most egregious court decisions of all time.
Posted on 2/18/17 at 4:32 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
and you know this how
Posted on 2/18/17 at 4:34 pm to Ramblin Wreck
I am ultimately for and against abortion at the same time
I am for it because I ultimately believe it does more good than harm for society as a whole. Most aborted babies come from parents who won't do a good job raising a productive member of society
But I hate how it's become a litmus test issue and a feminist issue, and a feminist rallying cry. How if you oppose abortion you are an evil woman hating misogynist shitlord. I hate the politics and activism behind it all
I am for it because I ultimately believe it does more good than harm for society as a whole. Most aborted babies come from parents who won't do a good job raising a productive member of society
But I hate how it's become a litmus test issue and a feminist issue, and a feminist rallying cry. How if you oppose abortion you are an evil woman hating misogynist shitlord. I hate the politics and activism behind it all
Posted on 2/18/17 at 4:37 pm to goldennugget
I agree. It's one of the most polarizing topics out there for me. I can see how both sides are wrong and how both sides are right.
Posted on 2/18/17 at 4:45 pm to Ramblin Wreck
quote:The Crowned Jewel of Irony.
The child she was trying to abort ended up being 2 1/2 years old by the time the Supreme Court ruling occurred. Nothing is known about the child since it was given up for adoption.
Posted on 2/18/17 at 4:45 pm to goldennugget
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goldennugget
I've been watching The Man in the High Castle and googling some stuff from the show that piqued my interest.
A quick search for "Lebensborn" led me to info about the US' very pro-eugenics attitude 100 years ago. It is pretty wild how accepted the practice was among politicians, college professors, business leaders, scientists, and the general public.
You seem like the type of guy who probably has done some research on the topic, if so, maybe you can start a thread on it next week.
Posted on 2/18/17 at 4:46 pm to Rattlehead82
A friend of mine told me yesterday that he believes abortion will be illegal in 20 years and viewed in the same vein as segregation...
I'm actually pro-life and pro-choice, but I have no clue where his opinion came from: I'm actually surprised it exist
I'm actually pro-life and pro-choice, but I have no clue where his opinion came from: I'm actually surprised it exist
Posted on 2/18/17 at 4:46 pm to AZTarheeel
Eugenics is a touchy subject
Posted on 2/18/17 at 5:24 pm to Ramblin Wreck
"At the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of.”
- Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg
So...
Why does the ’70s-era image of the white, middle-class teenager as the typical abortion patient persist?
It's no secret the birth control movement and abortion revolution was rooted in eugenics philosophy that was popular a few decades earlier.
So Roe was a pawn for quite a people who didn't want poor people to procreate and were also probably quite racist.
- Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg
So...
Why does the ’70s-era image of the white, middle-class teenager as the typical abortion patient persist?
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But one thing that hasn’t changed since 1973 is the public image of what a typical abortion patient looks like: A middle-class, white high-school or college student with no children whose bright future could be derailed by motherhood.
And yet, Women under 20 now account for only 18 percent of abortions, around 85 percent of those seeking abortion aren’t married, 42 percent of women having abortions live under the poverty line, and another 27 percent have incomes within 200 percent of the poverty line.
Taken together, 69 percent of women who have abortions are unmarried and living in poverty with little education.
While the discourse around abortion still focuses on scared white teenagers, the reality is that the typical abortion patient these days is a twenty-something single mother of color.
It's no secret the birth control movement and abortion revolution was rooted in eugenics philosophy that was popular a few decades earlier.
So Roe was a pawn for quite a people who didn't want poor people to procreate and were also probably quite racist.
This post was edited on 2/18/17 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 2/18/17 at 5:31 pm to AZTarheeel
Without going full eugenics, I could see the value of sterilization in certain circumstances.
Posted on 2/18/17 at 7:21 pm to Sentrius
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I'm not in favor of abortion being illegal
agree
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want the Roe decision to be left alone
disagree - things like this should be settled by congress, not by searching for penumbra/umbra projections from imagined meanings in the constitution that have absolutely no supporting interpretation of the words of the constitution.
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but how it happened and how it came to be and how the ruling justices decided it was an atrocity.
Which is why it should be reversed. Things like this just give impetus for more atrociously decided cases. We have suffered a multitude of rediculous cases that emanated from that penumbra.
Posted on 2/18/17 at 7:32 pm to Sentrius
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I'm not in favor of abortion being illegal
And you know that at the time of Roe, abortion was legal in some places, illegal in others. These were political decisions made by the several states.
Roe ended that debate and any further political discourse on the topic, freezing and polarizing the sides at that moment in time.
So, it can remain a festering wound and rallying cry (litmus test) for the hard left.
Posted on 2/19/17 at 9:31 am to Ramblin Wreck
I wonder if the child she put up for adoption ever sought out his or her birth mother and discovered that they were the unwanted pregnancy at the heart of Roe v Wade??
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