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It's time for Japan to rearm themselves.

Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:57 pm
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:57 pm
The wounds of World War II have healed long ago. Japan should be encouraged to amend the MacArthur Constitution to remove the article where they denounce war and re-establish an army, navy, air force, etc. The threat of North Korea has been there since the death of Kim Il-sung, but it's more apparent now that Japan needs arm themselves to the extent that the South Koreans have. Should probably stop giving military aid to Israel and shift all that support toward Japan, which is almost a client state of the US like South Korea is.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:59 pm to
trusting the Japanese
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38202 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 2:59 pm to
Japan has one of the strongest militaries in the world. Do you live under a rock by any chance?
Posted by Josh Fenderman
Ron Don Volante's PlayPen
Member since Jul 2011
6704 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 3:01 pm to
Futurist's vision of the Japanese Army:

Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 3:02 pm to
He is probably talking nukes
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 3:03 pm to
To me, it's kind of like trying to get a hardcore alcoholic to drink again. "Hey it's been 20 years since you last drank, time to at least test it again!" Then of course he goes and acts like he did back in the day.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166077 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 3:03 pm to
Top 20 rankings list... no NK in top 20...?

LINK

Japan 4th.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/7/17 at 3:04 pm to
quote:

He is probably talking nukes
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38202 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

He is probably talking nukes


nah:

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but it's more apparent now that Japan needs arm themselves to the extent that the South Koreans have


SK doesn't have nukes. This fool truly didn't know that Japan has a military. They call themselves a "self-defence force" but it's a true military force.


ETA: also

quote:

Should probably stop giving military aid to Israel and shift all that support toward Japan


Japan doesn't need our support like Israel has needed it. Japan got our support after WWII when the US turned them into an economic powerhouse. Japan is one of our closest allies. We share technology all the time with them.
This post was edited on 7/7/17 at 3:08 pm
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16700 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 3:08 pm to
Their constitution permits defensive capabilities and use only if my understanding is accurate. The OP could be referring no to an offensive constitution amendment.

Of course giving them nukes would certainly encourage China and Russia to do more. I think that's the only thing they understand.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41642 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 3:11 pm to
I just assumed Japan would weaponize their underwear vending machines when push came to shove.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
20347 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

They call themselves a "self-defence force" but it's a true military force.


And from what I've heard they are very well-trained. Quality over quantity. Any military baws ever worked with them to confirm or deny?
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 3:27 pm to
Lol that self defense force? lol


Also, because I think someone else mentioned it, no where in my original post did I say give them nukes. I don't want any other nation to possess them. I'm talking about conventional forces only.
Posted by Boudin
Lafayette
Member since Oct 2006
10133 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

Japan has one of the strongest militaries in the world. Do you live under a rock by any chance?

You aren't serious are you?!
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112388 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 3:46 pm to
You're not a real military until you invade something. I recommend the Japanese go south and claim the Spratly Islands.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38202 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 3:51 pm to
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Lol that self defense force? lol


I'm not sure as to what you find funny. If you're talking about actives and reserves, look to Japan's lack of conscription for that.

Japan's navy is superior to SK's, as it should, as they are an island nation. Their navy is probably top 5 in the world.

Their air force is similar to SK's and will only be bolstered by the arrival of the F-35s (SK has them coming too). Their electronic warfare, AWACS, and transport assets are all superior to SK's.

Japan doesn't need a large active military or reserve force because they're not immediately threatened by NK. Any threat to Japan will be in the form of ICBMs. They aren't allies with SK so they have no mutual defense obligations to serve in the event of a war. We've been trying to get Japan and the ROK on the same page for some time now but neither country is particularly excited about dealing with one another considering the vast history between the two. I doubt you'll see any type of alliance or mutual defense agreement in the near future. And if war does break out in the Korean Peninsula, you can guarantee that Japan will not be sending boots.

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You aren't serious are you?!


What's not serious about what I said?
This post was edited on 7/7/17 at 3:52 pm
Posted by Folsom
Folsom
Member since Mar 2006
3304 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 3:53 pm to
Any pics of their armies?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134839 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

you can guarantee that Japan will not be sending boots.

Playstations for the troops?
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38202 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

Any pics of their armies?


Uh... I mean I can just pull pics off of Wikipedia and post them here if you want.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43318 posts
Posted on 7/7/17 at 4:00 pm to
Do people here honestly think Japan doesn't have a military?

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