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Is White Nationalism inherently racist?

Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:14 pm
Posted by JazzyJeff
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:14 pm
The ideology is wanting to live with those of the same race and cultural upbringing. This does not mean you hate or wish harm on those of a different race, but you prefer to hang out with your own kind.

So why are White Nationalists equated with White Supremacists, the KKK and the Nazis? And why are so many whites such cucks when it comes to this?
Posted by DeadHeadTiger
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:15 pm to
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And why are so many whites such cucks when it comes to this?



Because whites can basically socially exhiled for being proud of their heritage
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 11:17 pm
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:15 pm to
Every other race on the planet is allowed to have racial considerations except whites.

Asian groups, middle eastern groups, Hispanic groups, black groups, those are all fine.

Only white groups are a problem apparently.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:18 pm to
What is white nationalism?

How long has it existed as an ideology?

What are its basic tenets?

Who leads the movement?

Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:20 pm to
The Nazis and Commies killed more Europeans than any other groups this past century. That we have both these psychos here now isn't a good thing for any race.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:24 pm to
Inherently? No, not intellectually anyway

But if we're having an honest discussion, we need to admit that the OVERWHELMING majority of those who embrace white nationalism believe in the superiority of the white "race" (however they define that) to some extent. I would even venture to say it's essentially ubiquitous and, for all intents and purposes, synonymous with white nationalism.
Posted by Robin Masters
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:24 pm to
I think the question is why is not ok for a white person to pass judgment on other races (i.e. Be a racist) but it is ok to pass judgment on the racist for being racist.

We should all live free of other people's emotional baggage.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:26 pm to
Don't think it would be much of an issue if historically whites hadn't tried to dominate every other culture on Earth...
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:26 pm to
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but you prefer to hang out with your own kind.


Exactly what the Japanese prefer isn't it?
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:30 pm to
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Every other race on the planet is allowed to have racial considerations except whites.


The concept of race is meaningless scientifically, it's merely a subjective classification system used by people and the criteria for various races varies from culture to culture and person to person.

Usually when people are referring to race, what they are really talking about is ethnicity and they simply don't know it.

But to counter your post, those of traditionally European ethnicity that you would call white own about 70% of the world's personal wealth and are effectively the globe's ruling class. We do ok.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:33 pm to
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So why are White Nationalists equated with White Supremacists, the KKK and the Nazis?


Have you ever met a self-described white nationalist who doesn't fit into one of those categories? Because every single one I have ever personally encountered was either a current or former member of the Aryan Brotherhood, a run of the mill skinhead or endorsed white supremacist views to some extent.
Posted by bmy
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:41 pm to
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The ideology is wanting to live with those of the same race and cultural upbringing. This does not mean you hate or wish harm on those of a different race, but you prefer to hang out with your own kind.

So why are White Nationalists equated with White Supremacists, the KKK and the Nazis? And why are so many whites such cucks when it comes to this?



wouldn't white nationalism be wanting to expel non-whites from the country? it's a racist ideology.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:08 am to
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wouldn't white nationalism be wanting to expel non-whites from the country? it's a racist ideology.
that's a little extreme, but white nationalists do want to make sure things are better for white people
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:13 am to
I don't think White Nationalism is inherently racist but I'd be willing to wager that the majority of white nationalists, especially the most vocal ones, are racists.
Posted by MButterfly
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:22 am to
First, we are mixing race with a love of country.

There are Black Nationalists too. They support Trump.

The real issue is that the media and the left want to use the word "WHITE" in a combative way.

Nationalists does not Equal NAzi. America First isn't either.

We need to separate that.

Posted by MButterfly
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:24 am to
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wouldn't white nationalism be wanting to expel non-whites from the country? it's a racist ideology.


No. It's a made up term.

At least that's not how I take the term.


Posted by MButterfly
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:24 am to
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but white nationalists do want to make sure things are better for white people


I don't see that either.

Posted by JazzyJeff
Japan
Member since Sep 2006
3938 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:25 am to
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Exactly what the Japanese prefer isn't it?
Yes it is and I don't consider it racist that they do. One of the reasons Japan is as safe as it is is due to its homogeneous culture. And being very strict with its immigration laws help as well.
This post was edited on 8/16/17 at 9:27 am
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:25 am to
Unfortunately, the left now defines American social constructs. See: George Zimmerman, White Hispanic.
Posted by SoulGlo
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:29 am to
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We should all live free of other people's emotional baggage.



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