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Is Puerto Rico using the hurricane to apply pressure on congress to bail them out?

Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:09 am
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16855 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:09 am
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Puerto Rico Is Running Out of Money


Link to Bloomberg Article

Puerto Rico faces a government shutdown on Oct. 31, including halting its hurricane recovery, if Congress doesn’t provide billions in emergency funds, said Treasury Secretary Raul Maldonado.

The U.S. commonwealth’s bankrupt government is burning through the $1.6 billion it had on hand before Hurricane Maria ravaged the island, destroying decayed infrastructure and killing 34 people. With widespread damage to telecommunications systems and the electricity grid, Maldonado doesn’t expect to begin collecting sales tax for at least another month, he said Wednesday.


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While attention has focused on the commonwealth’s staggering $74 billion debt, Puerto Rico faces a more immediate crisis in the wake of the storm. It’s running short of money for fuel, salaries of recovery workers and food aid. Meanwhile, only 8.6 percent of customers have electricity, mobile-phone service is sharply curtailed and many mountainous rural areas remain inaccessible.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81280 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:09 am to
They'd be stupid not to IMO.

Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16855 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:10 am to
$74 billion in debt. Kind of astounding.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:10 am to
quote:

$74 billion in debt. Kind of astounding

Sounds like 1 U.S. hour
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139774 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:10 am to
Why dont they just go directly to China? Skip the middle man. We dont have that money.
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14916 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:11 am to
Of course they are. They've been crying for forgiveness of the debt they incurred for years.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123776 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:28 am to
quote:

Is Puerto Rico using the hurricane to apply pressure on congress to bail them out?
No way. /sarcasm
Posted by alatxtgr
The Nation of Texas
Member since Sep 2006
2282 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:30 am to
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using the hurricane to apply pressure on congress

Ab so fricking lute ly.....
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13494 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:32 am to
Feds provide disaster relief just like for any other Americans.

But they shouldn't provide stupid relief.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73436 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:32 am to
What do these commonwealths bring to the table again?
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17872 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:33 am to
The should just file chapter 11...
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:35 am to
quote:

President Trump on Tuesday raised the prospect of wiping out hurricane-ravaged Puerto Rico's crushing debt load.

"They owe a lot of money to your friends on Wall Street. We will have to wipe that out," Trump told Fox News' Geraldo Rivera in an interview in San Juan, the Puerto Rican capital.


quote:

"I don't know if it's Goldman Sachs, but whoever it is, you can wave goodbye to that," Trump said in the interview, which aired late Tuesday. "The debt was massive on the island."


LINK
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:39 am to
quote:

Why dont they just go directly to China? Skip the middle man. We dont have that money.


We should just trade them to China for a large pizza and a six pack.

Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32479 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:40 am to
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The should just file chapter 11...



For some reason unknown to anyone, Puerto Rico is the only state or territory not allowed to file chapter 9.


This was shoved into a bill in the 80's by Strom Thurman and nobody can figure out why he did it.
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
7915 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:43 am to
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They'd be stupid not to IMO.


This.

I've got zero pity for those that bought Puerto Rico bonds in the last 10+ years. The bond buyers knew PR was in crappy shape and thought the US laws on PR declaring bankruptcy would save them. The law is one thing, math is another.

Never count on government rules and regs to guarantee a business venture...
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118636 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:43 am to
quote:

What do these commonwealths bring to the table again?


They offer junk bond status to the likes of Mitt Romney and Bain Capital to make 12%+ on their dollar after they get bailed out by tax paying Americans.

And you don't even get the courtesy of a reach a round.
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
14972 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:45 am to
Of course they are. On balance, the hurricane was the best thing that could've happened to PR.
Not much is being reported about the condition of the infrastructure before the storms nor how taxpayer money has been used (or not) over the years to shore up and harden the infrastructure from the inevitable occurrence of catastrophic weather.
Just where has all of the money gone?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94819 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:47 am to
Into government salaries and welfare benefits for the island as far as I can tell.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17872 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:53 am to
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For some reason unknown to anyone, Puerto Rico is the only state or territory not allowed to file chapter 9.


This was shoved into a bill in the 80's by Strom Thurman and nobody can figure out why he did it

It was tongue-in-cheek about trump, but I'll be damned if i didn't just learn something i had no idea about as a result
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
45973 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:55 am to
quote:

Is Puerto Rico using the hurricane to apply pressure on congress to bail them out?


Puerto Rico is hoping this is the "perfect storm" to clean up their shite hole island, can't say I blame them.
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 10:53 am
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