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Intelligence Directors All Testify to Russian Election Interfence

Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:34 am
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21118 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:34 am
- said they did not hack voting machines or change vote totals
- said they cannot determine what kind of affect they had on choices Americans made
- said that Posesta and DNC hacks had clear Russian fingerprints on them. It was as though Russia wanted us to know.
- said that "fake news" is coming from Russian sources (not sure what they meant by this. Didn't elaborate).
- were all unanimous that Russia, as a state actor, was involved with interfering in our election process through the DNC hacks, releasing info, propoganda, fake news, etc.
- all said that Assange is not credible in his assertions


This was a Congressional hearing. Why would these guys all unanimously say this if it isn't true? Wouldn't there be a defector? Obama is on his way out and Trump is coming in. What do they have to gain?

Wouldn't there be an uprising in one of the 17 Intel agencies? Wouldn't some folks from the FBI leak that this was a ruse?

Instead they are unanimous and a joint report comes out next week.


I have no idea if they are right or are all lying to Congress under oath. I'm not making the case one way or the other. My question is, if they are all lying, along with all of their agencies, what do they have to gain? What is the end game here?

We have Trump, Assange, and Putin/Russia against the entire US intelligence community two weeks before inauguration. This is some high stakes stuff. Who is right? Who do you believe?

I'm in a wait and see mode to see how Trump responds to the briefing, see what he knows that he promised to tell us, and aee what the report next week says. However, I am inclined to believe US Intel over Assange/Putin. The jury is out on whether or not I think Trump is right or just uninformed.
Posted by KeyserSoze999
Member since Dec 2009
10608 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:35 am to
All I know is I'd rather listen to the Oprah before that fricking voice of Linsey gramnesty.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
32857 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:36 am to
What is it going to take for the left to move on from this? Russia has been sanctioned and we kicked out their diplomats. Whether these allegations are true or not, it's been addressed.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:37 am to
quote:

- said that Posesta and DNC hacks had clear Russian fingerprints on them. It was as though Russia wanted us to know.

Proof it wasn't Russia
quote:

were all unanimous that Russia, as a state actor, was involved with interfering in our election process through the DNC hacks, releasing info, propoganda, fake news, etc.

Interfering or ATTEMPTED to interfere? Sizable difference
Posted by TaekwondoJesus
Member since Dec 2016
185 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:38 am to
If I were a secret agent I would liquidate all my assets, transfer the cash to the most secure and anonymous bank account possible, and disappear before noon on Jan 20.

Bush outed *ONE* agent who was no longer in the field (that we know of at least). Imagine what the I'm-Like-A-Smart-Person-In-Chief-Elect will do when he takes over.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35361 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:38 am to
quote:

What is it going to take for the left to move on from this? Russia has been sanctioned and we kicked out their diplomats. Whether these allegations are true or not, it's been addressed.
The only thing keeping it going is Trump.
Posted by Andrew Rowan
Member since Mar 2016
154 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:38 am to
quote:

Why would these guys all unanimously say this if it isn't true?
Theyre all political appointees.
quote:

Obama is on his way out and Trump is coming in. What do they have to gain?
Favor with the next democrat administration
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98462 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:39 am to
Really impressive that these agencies were able to perform a thorough investigation and reach this conclusion in such a short period of time. Especially where we've been told it would take years to go through Clinton's emails. Also, I seem to recall a story yesterday where it was noted that NO INTELLIGENCE AGENCY had actually analyzed/examined the DNC computers and servers.

They must all be fricking mediums, or something.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33856 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:39 am to
Is every hack attempt originating from a country sponsored by that country's government?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98462 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:40 am to
quote:

Bush outed *ONE* agent who was no longer in the field (that we know of at least). Imagine what the I'm-Like-A-Smart-Person-In-Chief-Elect will do when he takes over


Bush... Try again.
Posted by Contra
Member since Oct 2016
7521 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:43 am to
When you politicize angencies like the jackass in chief has, this is what you get. This comment from the WSJ tells me all I need to know about one of the agencies:

quote:

Current and former intelligence and law-enforcement officials have reacted with a mix of bafflement and outrage to Mr. Trump’s continuing series of jabs at U.S. spies.

“They are furious about it,” said one former senior intelligence official, adding that a retinue of senior officials who thought they would be staying on in a Hillary Clinton administration now are re-evaluating their plans following Mr. Trump’s election.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15648 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:44 am to
quote:

I have no idea if they are right or are all lying to Congress under oath. I'm not making the case one way or the other. My question is, if they are all lying, along with all of their agencies, what do they have to gain? What is the end game here?


I think you answered your question before you asked it.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21118 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:45 am to
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Interfering or ATTEMPTED to interfere? Sizable difference


They said that Russia definitely interfered. They do not believe they altered the outcome - or, rather, they cannot say what affect they might have had. They clearly said that that type of analysis is beyond the purview of the intelligence community. They aren't saying that they didn't alter it, they just can't speak to that.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21118 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:47 am to
quote:

Theyre all political appointees.


Even the military guys testifying in full uniform today?
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21118 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:47 am to
quote:

Is every hack attempt originating from a country sponsored


I don't know. But, they are saying that these are.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21118 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:49 am to
quote:

They must all be fricking mediums, or something


They all seem to be in agreement with no dissent. Why? If this is all a ruse, it is going to be revealed in a couple of weeks when Trump comes in. They will have perjured themselves. All of them.

What are they gaining here? Help me understand.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259901 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:50 am to
It's my understanding that an 8 year old who knows how to spell password could have,accessed the emails.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:50 am to
quote:

were all unanimous that Russia, as a state actor, was involved with interfering in our election process through the DNC hacks, releasing info, propoganda, fake news, etc.
- all said that Assange is not credible in his assertions




Well well well.

I guess all 17 agencies are lying? bullshite

The real question is why is Trump defending Putin?
Posted by Andrew Rowan
Member since Mar 2016
154 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:50 am to
quote:

Even the military guys testifying in full uniform today?
Probably the biggest liars in the room today
Posted by Andrew Rowan
Member since Mar 2016
154 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:52 am to
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They will have perjured themselves. All of them.
Perjured themselves? According to your OP they haven't actually said anything. This is nothing but a dog and pony show for the media to have some ammunition to attack Trump. Nothing more.
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