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Patrick O Rly
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y u do dis?
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re: I'm establishment, and I've evolved my position re gay marriage

You sound like one of them small government Conservative types.


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Blue Velvet
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Apple butter toast is nice
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re: I'm establishment, and I've evolved my position re gay marriage
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Taxes for what?
For anything.
Taxes do not involve consent.
Why do you want the government to force things on us without consent (taxes, Obamacare, birth control for religious institutions, etc)?


southernelite
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re: I'm establishment, and I've evolved my position re gay marriage
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Posted by Zach quote: but I can no longer find the conviction in it. Glad for ya, but that's an odd use of the word 'conviction.'


do you know the definition of conviction?


DawgfaninCa
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re: I'm establishment, and I've evolved my position re gay marriage
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But I won't have my State allowing them to enter a marriage contract.


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Why?


Maybe it's because he doesn't want his children to be taught that homosexuality is normal and an equal alternative to heterosexuality.



Zach
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re: I'm establishment, and I've evolved my position re gay marriage
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do you know the definition of conviction?

Yes. Do you know the way to San Jose?


southernelite
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re: I'm establishment, and I've evolved my position re gay marriage
Why?


SammyTiger
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re: I'm establishment, and I've evolved my position re gay marriage
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For anything.
Taxes do not involve consent.
Why do you want the government to force things on us without consent (taxes, Obamacare, birth control for religious institutions, etc)?


I'm pretty sure consent is only relevant regarding sex. YOu consent to following the laws of a country when you take up residence there.


Zach
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re: I'm establishment, and I've evolved my position re gay marriage
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Why?

Why not?


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Blue Velvet
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re: I'm establishment, and I've evolved my position re gay marriage
1. I was responding to l.a.t.'s weak, hypocritical argument.
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I'm pretty sure consent is only relevant regarding sex.
No.
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YOu consent to following the laws of a country when you take up residence there.
If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so.


ironsides
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Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
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re: I'm establishment, and I've evolved my position re gay marriage
Great that you support gay marriage. Do you think they can provide the same benefits to society that a heterosexual couple can and thus deserve the tax breaks?


Blue Velvet
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re: I'm establishment, and I've evolved my position re gay marriage
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Do you think they can provide the same benefits to society that a heterosexual couple can
Depends on couple.
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thus deserve the tax breaks
No group deserves those tax breaks more than another. It's just more government-sponsored prejudice.


onmymedicalgrind
Stanford Fan
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re: I'm establishment, and I've evolved my position re gay marriage
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Do you think they can provide the same benefits to society that a heterosexual couple can and thus deserve the tax breaks?


I personally think our society needs to improve personal hygiene and can definitely stand to be better dressed.


real
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re: I'm establishment, and I've evolved my position re gay marriage
I know that the divorce lawyers can't wait to get their hands on rich gay people's money.


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ironsides
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Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
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re: I'm establishment, and I've evolved my position re gay marriage
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No group deserves those tax breaks more than another. It's just more government-sponsored prejudice.


So then you're for a flat tax where we all pay the same amount. At least we agree on something.


Blue Velvet
Colorado State Fan
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re: I'm establishment, and I've evolved my position re gay marriage
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So then you're for a flat tax where we all pay the same amount.
No.


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southernelite
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re: I'm establishment, and I've evolved my position re gay marriage
I'd imagine he would support proportional taxes and not a flat tax. Flat taxes are regressive in nature.


ironsides
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Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
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re: I'm establishment, and I've evolved my position re gay marriage
Can you point to one modern society that has a flat tax and explain how it's regresssive?

This whole gay marriage thing is missing the point, I don't care what two people do in their own private lives but I don't believe they should get the same tax benefits married hetero couples do so long as their is a "progressive" "proportional tax".



Blue Velvet
Colorado State Fan
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re: I'm establishment, and I've evolved my position re gay marriage
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I don't believe they should get the same tax benefits married hetero couples do
Why do they get tax benefits that single parents and unmarried hetero couples don't get?


Layabout
UNO Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
8030 posts

re: I'm establishment, and I've evolved my position re gay marriage
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not a damn would be given in my household.

Maybe one of your offspring will thank you for not opposing it.


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ironsides
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Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
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re: I'm establishment, and I've evolved my position re gay marriage
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Why do they get tax benefits that single parents and unmarried hetero couples don't get?


Married couples can produce future tax payers naturally


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