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If you want to understand PC culture, look up Jordan Peterson
Posted on 2/24/17 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 2/24/17 at 9:12 pm
He correctly connects neo-Marxism to post modernism.
If you want to understand what you're dealing with, listen to this:
LINK
If you want to understand what you're dealing with, listen to this:
LINK
This post was edited on 2/24/17 at 9:17 pm
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Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:35 pm to Patrick O Rly
Dude, that youtube piece is two and a half hours long. Please summarize.
Thanks.
PS I doubt that there's anything in there that I would find disagreeable.
Thanks.
PS I doubt that there's anything in there that I would find disagreeable.
This post was edited on 2/24/17 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 2/25/17 at 5:53 am to Champagne
It's not really something you can summerize.
This guy has basically spent his whole life studying how seemingly normal people in these oppressive regimes can do the horrible things that they do.
One of the traits is lying becomes pathological, like in Stalins Russia you could get sent to Siberia if you even implied that Russia wasn't such a great place, and this was a real fear because many people were informants.
But more to the point of PC culture: it's basically post modernism, but it's had to nest itself in Marxism because in and of itself it has no ideology of its own.
Post modernist view all values as subjective, but nihilism isn't a tenable ideology, and since this really took hold in academia, Marxism was a natural adoption.
But it's dangerous. It lies all the time. They will hold things as true they know not to be true and call you names if you differ.
That might simply be seen as childish, but what that does to you as a person isn't childish at all. It'll escalate until it's murderous.
Another thing he brings up is people who are political correct tend to score higher in trait agreeableness and openness. Those aren't bad in and of themselves, but in a lot of these SJW it leads to them viewing others essentiallrry as their children (that's where the violent streak comes from) and tend to lead rather chaotic lives.
This guy has basically spent his whole life studying how seemingly normal people in these oppressive regimes can do the horrible things that they do.
One of the traits is lying becomes pathological, like in Stalins Russia you could get sent to Siberia if you even implied that Russia wasn't such a great place, and this was a real fear because many people were informants.
But more to the point of PC culture: it's basically post modernism, but it's had to nest itself in Marxism because in and of itself it has no ideology of its own.
Post modernist view all values as subjective, but nihilism isn't a tenable ideology, and since this really took hold in academia, Marxism was a natural adoption.
But it's dangerous. It lies all the time. They will hold things as true they know not to be true and call you names if you differ.
That might simply be seen as childish, but what that does to you as a person isn't childish at all. It'll escalate until it's murderous.
Another thing he brings up is people who are political correct tend to score higher in trait agreeableness and openness. Those aren't bad in and of themselves, but in a lot of these SJW it leads to them viewing others essentiallrry as their children (that's where the violent streak comes from) and tend to lead rather chaotic lives.
Posted on 2/25/17 at 8:09 am to Patrick O Rly
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it's dangerous. It lies all the time. They will hold things as true they know not to be true and call you names if you differ. That might simply be seen as childish, but what that does to you as a person isn't childish at all. It'll escalate until it's murderous.
It can escalate to murderous intentions on either side of the political aisle. Truth is the antidote to postmodernism, not a narrative we like better. That has been one of my fundamental disagreements with Trumpism.
Trumpkins held onto things they knew weren't true in the Republican primary in order to "win." And in our postmodern society, it worked. But where does that leave us? Might-makes-right narrative building.
Posted on 2/25/17 at 8:18 am to Patrick O Rly
Welcome back. 
You gonna stick around more?
You gonna stick around more?
Posted on 2/25/17 at 8:21 am to the808bass
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Trumpkins held onto things they knew weren't true in the Republican primary in order to "win." And in our postmodern society, it worked. But where does that leave us? Might-makes-right narrative building.
You're exactly right, of course. But I truly believe all of the excesses of Trumpism were totally necessary in order to defeat Hillary and everything she represents. I am much more uneasy with Trump's totalitarian tendencies that we have attained power. But it's a necessary evil, I think, and fairly harmless.
This post was edited on 2/25/17 at 8:23 am
Posted on 2/25/17 at 8:59 am to the808bass
quote:
Truth is the antidote to postmodernism,
That won't work. Truth is an artificial construct designed to oppress the masses.
Posted on 2/25/17 at 9:03 am to Zach
quote:
That won't work. Truth is an artificial construct designed to oppress the masses.
Wait. Is that truth or is it just your construct to suppress my beliefs?
Edit: also I upvoted you, Zach. You get it.
This post was edited on 2/25/17 at 9:05 am
Posted on 2/25/17 at 9:04 am to the808bass
quote:Well said.
Truth is the antidote to postmodernism, not a narrative we like better.
Posted on 2/25/17 at 9:33 am to the808bass
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Trumpkins held onto things they knew weren't true in the Republican primary in order
Examples please
Posted on 2/25/17 at 9:40 am to 1234567k
Ted Cruz's dad was connected to the Kennedy assassination.
Posted on 2/25/17 at 9:43 am to TrueTiger
I spend a lot less time on this site as a whole because of my work and family schedule. But if there's something interesting to talk about sure.
Posted on 2/25/17 at 9:49 am to LSUTigersVCURams
quote:
But I truly believe all of the excesses of Trumpism were totally necessary in order to defeat Hillary and everything she represents. I am much more uneasy with Trump's totalitarian tendencies that we have attained power. But it's a necessary evil, I think, and fairly harmless.
You just proved his point perfectly
Posted on 2/25/17 at 11:00 am to upgrayedd
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You just proved his point perfectly
I agree with him. I'm saying Trump was and is a necessary evil - unless you would have liked Hillary better!
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