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If tomorrow morning every vehicle in the US were electric would we use less energy??
Posted on 9/12/17 at 8:48 pm
Posted on 9/12/17 at 8:48 pm
Talk among yourselves. 
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Posted on 9/12/17 at 8:52 pm to I B Freeman
I have nothing to back it up on but my gut says no. Just swapping out the order of input imo.
Would it produce less pollution?
Would it produce less pollution?
Posted on 9/12/17 at 8:53 pm to I B Freeman
No.
Plus, what about the thousands of products made with petrochemicals.
Cars may cease needing oil, but the world will not.
Plus, what about the thousands of products made with petrochemicals.
Cars may cease needing oil, but the world will not.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 8:54 pm to I B Freeman
That's a truck ton of Lithium mining...
Posted on 9/12/17 at 8:55 pm to I B Freeman
No. You still need to charge those cars with energy that is created using petrol fueled plants.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 8:55 pm to I B Freeman
As a matter of efficiency, yes. Power plants are more efficient than your car's engine.
So assuming everything is equal, yes we would use less energy.
So assuming everything is equal, yes we would use less energy.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 8:56 pm to I B Freeman
$4.5 Trillion if we switched everything to electric tomorrow.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 8:57 pm to DeafJam73
And I'm guessing that running the entire interstate highway system on electricity would put some stress on the grid, but what do I know.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 8:57 pm to I B Freeman
Yes, people wouldn't drive as much and stay closer to home.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 8:58 pm to Rakim
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$4.5 Trillion if we switched everything to electric tomorrow.
I doubt even the film industry has that much money.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 9:01 pm to NYNolaguy1
The motor itself would be more effecient, but not the act of charging the batteries.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 9:01 pm to DeafJam73
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No. You still need to charge those cars with energy that is created using petrol fueled plants.
Don't forget coal and nuclear plus all those beautiful windmills that kill hawks and eagles OH and there are those solar panels that nobody can afford except with tax subsidies.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 9:01 pm to Godfather1
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$4.5 Trillion if we switched everything to electric tomorrow.
Film industry made $36 billion on box-office sales in 2013. So, you're probably right. In the same year the video game industry raked in $70 billion...interesting.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 9:03 pm to larry289
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Don't forget coal and nuclear plus all those beautiful windmills that kill hawks and eagles OH and there are those solar panels that nobody can afford except with tax subsidies.
From what I understand Tesla roofing tiles are where it's at.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 9:03 pm to I B Freeman
Internal combustion or GTFO.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 9:03 pm to I B Freeman
Depends on the efficiency of the electric system on the car and the weight. Given the same weight and driving, it requires the same minimum energy, but much of the internal combustion energy is wasted as heat. On the electric side it matters which method used to generate the electricity. Generally speaking a power plant is gonna be more efficient than a gas engine. As someone else pointed out, there is a massive ecological question about the mining of materials and the manufacture of batteries. If we can get moved over to current gen nuclear plants and the new exiting developments in super capacitor tech pan out (super high energy density, charging in a matter of minutes instead of hours, not susceptible to temperature, much more durable) then I can see electric cars being superior. Until then it's just not practical or more ecologically sound
This post was edited on 9/12/17 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 9/12/17 at 9:06 pm to LSUnation78
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The motor itself would be more effecient, but not the act of charging the batteries.
My point is that entropically speaking your gas engine loses far more energy as waste than your local power plant does.
Where is the energy waste in charging batteries? Heat from the cord?
Posted on 9/12/17 at 9:07 pm to I B Freeman
No.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 9:08 pm to I B Freeman
Can we factor in the film tax credit into the equation? Serious question.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 9:10 pm to I B Freeman
Technically the energy provided to move a car would be the same minus the difference in weight of batteries compared to an engine block and on average a half tank of gas.
Now is it more efficient to generate electricity using natural gas, wind, solar, hydro, and nuclear? Presuming all new power plants were not coal.
For the you would assume the power plants are more efficient, but you lose power over the grid as well as in transference to the batteries. But that efficiency loss may counter costs of fuel tanker trucks delivering gas in various grades to each station. Not to mention the cleanup costs at each gas station.
I think you are going to see boat engines turn over to electric power sooner as boats are great for solar, wind, and even hydro energy already.
Now is it more efficient to generate electricity using natural gas, wind, solar, hydro, and nuclear? Presuming all new power plants were not coal.
For the you would assume the power plants are more efficient, but you lose power over the grid as well as in transference to the batteries. But that efficiency loss may counter costs of fuel tanker trucks delivering gas in various grades to each station. Not to mention the cleanup costs at each gas station.
I think you are going to see boat engines turn over to electric power sooner as boats are great for solar, wind, and even hydro energy already.
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