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VOR
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re: If the GOP agrees to go ahead and pass amnesty

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Well, what are the categories, then? We can discuss them one at a time.



I'll make it real easy for you (although the situations are more numerous and complex than this). If someone has been here for, say, two or three years (arbitrary . . . we can come up with a longer or shorter time), is working, contributing, paying taxes . . . I'm not all that keen to deport them. Shit, there are probably a thousand Irish bartenders in NYC who are technically illegal. Several hundred, at least, Asians in the New Orleans metro area who don't have all their papers in order. All of these people ended up here in different ways. Some came legally but their papers expired.

The people who are so rabidly against amnesty based upon anything firsthand tend to be the people in the Southwest dealing with an avalanche of Latino immigrants. The rest of the anti-amnesty people I run into tend to be stick up the butt nativist right wingers who just don't cotton to the idea even in the abstract.


accnodefense
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re: If the GOP agrees to go ahead and pass amnesty
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I'll make it real easy for you (although the situations are more numerous and complex than this). If someone has been here for, say, two or three years (arbitrary . . . we can come up with a longer or shorter time), is working, contributing, paying taxes . . . I'm not all that keen to deport them. Shit, there are probably a thousand Irish bartenders in NYC who are technically illegal. Several hundred, at least, Asians in the New Orleans metro area who don't have all their papers in order. All of these people ended up here in different ways. Some came legally but their papers expired.


So basically you support law breaking crooks who drain our economy. Good to know.


VOR
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re: If the GOP agrees to go ahead and pass amnesty
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So basically you support law breaking crooks who drain our economy. Good to know.





Well, except for the fact that the people I'm referring to don't "drain the economy". To the contrary, they contribute to it.


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cwill
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re: If the GOP agrees to go ahead and pass amnesty
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So basically you support law breaking crooks who drain our economy. Good to know.


All evidence suggests they are a benefit to our economy....but don't let that get in the way of your ignorant bias.


VOR
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re: If the GOP agrees to go ahead and pass amnesty
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All evidence suggests they are a benefit to our economy....but don't let that get in the way of your ignorant bias.



You're fricking with his groove.


Meauxjeaux
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re: If the GOP agrees to go ahead and pass amnesty
You didn't give any categories... you just talked about people who cut in line recently vs those who cut in line 2-3 years ago.

WTHell is that?

Oh and then there's the straw argument that they are here and they are productive. Nice diversion. Would the person who is waiting legally for their immigration to be approved not be productive?

And then there's the "expired" argument. What happened to being responsible enough to leave before your time 'expired'?

So I see about 4-5 'awe cut em some slack' arguments for people who cut in line and steal the opportunity for the ones waiting in other countries, playing by the rules.

So you make some grand arguments in support of cutting in line. At this point I deem you a supporter of line cutters.

Shall we continue?


Meauxjeaux
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Shall we continue?


Apparently not, eh, hit-n-run lib?


goatmilker
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re: If the GOP agrees to go ahead and pass amnesty
I like Rubio's plan. Its not deporting nor amnesty.
They must earn it over a rather long time. Background checks and felons deported when found. Penalties to be paid. The process all others follow must be adhered to and they will start at the back of the line to those doing things the legal way. A process he has put at 5-10 years meanwhile they get work permits and begin paying tax's. We continue to work on actually defending our borders.
I need to hear more but like it so far.


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