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If reagan and clinton could run again in their home states, would they win?
Posted on 4/15/17 at 8:23 pm
Posted on 4/15/17 at 8:23 pm
Assume reagan is alive and wouldn't be very old.
If reagan decided to run for senate or governorship in california, and clinton the same in arkansas, could either of them win in 2017, considering how much the states have changed?
I tihnk clinton would win in arkansas if he ran as a very conservative democrat.
I think no matter how he ran, reagan would get clobbered in california.
Arkansas has changed ideologically but not demographically. Therefore, if you adjust your ideology, you can win.
California has changed massively demographically, so it matters much more what your political affiliation is if you decide to run. There are people in california now that were not there during reagan's time that won't even consider voting gop.
If reagan decided to run for senate or governorship in california, and clinton the same in arkansas, could either of them win in 2017, considering how much the states have changed?
I tihnk clinton would win in arkansas if he ran as a very conservative democrat.
I think no matter how he ran, reagan would get clobbered in california.
Arkansas has changed ideologically but not demographically. Therefore, if you adjust your ideology, you can win.
California has changed massively demographically, so it matters much more what your political affiliation is if you decide to run. There are people in california now that were not there during reagan's time that won't even consider voting gop.
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Posted on 4/15/17 at 8:24 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Reagan no, Clinton yes.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 8:26 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
neither
Her Thighness lost Arkansas by about 30 points.
His bullshite has an expiration date
Her Thighness lost Arkansas by about 30 points.
His bullshite has an expiration date
Posted on 4/15/17 at 8:28 pm to gthog61
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Her Thighness lost Arkansas by about 30 points.
True, but Hillary has negative charisma, is more liberal, and was running on the heels of a disastrous (for flyover country) D administration.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 8:30 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Clinton most definitely. He's a smooth motherfricker and more fiscally conservative than any democrat in history.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 8:46 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Reagan-yes
Clinton-No
Clinton-No
Posted on 4/15/17 at 8:54 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
1990s Clinton would be a right wing extremist. Current Clinton has no chance I. Arkansas
Reagan would be hitler incarnate.
Reagan would be hitler incarnate.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 8:56 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I can tell you without reservation that Clinton wouldn't have a shot here.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 8:56 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Reagan no. Clinton no way
This post was edited on 4/15/17 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:00 pm to RollTide4Ever
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Reagan-yes
I dunno about that. He wasn't a cultural warrior as governor. But you have to be a far left nutjob on social issues to win there now.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:02 pm to TheOtherWhiteMeat
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I can tell you without reservation that Clinton wouldn't have a shot here.
Or here. Little Rock and Pine Bluff would be his only strongholds. That ain't enough to get him over the hump.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:40 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I don't think either could
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:44 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Neither
Posted on 4/15/17 at 10:14 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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if you adjust your ideology, you can win.
Clinton was a master at being whatever he had to be.
People forget how liberal clinton was in 1992 and how he was well on his way to being a one termer until the republican revolution of 94 saved his sorry arse.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 10:17 pm to John Gotti
quote:No he's not. He lost his Congress and had to work with Newt and a Republican dominated Congress. People give Bill way too much credit.
more fiscally conservative than any democrat in history.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 10:28 pm to John Gotti
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more fiscally conservative than any democrat in history.
Because Newt forced him to be just that.
Bill Clinton owes his successful presidency to the GOAT Speaker in Newt.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 10:54 pm to Sentrius
This. Clinton should thanks newt everyday
Posted on 4/15/17 at 11:19 pm to RollTide4Ever
There's no way under the sun any GOP candidate can win statewide in Cali. The Golden State is going widdershins to the direction of the other 49- it's actually becoming MORE liberal and Democratic.
Until 2016, it was thought impossible that a national Democrat could carry Orange County. Hillary blew that supposition apart, bigly.
Until 2016, it was thought impossible that a national Democrat could carry Orange County. Hillary blew that supposition apart, bigly.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 11:25 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I'm not sure Clinton could win Arkansas. We've gone pretty damned red.
That said, our last governor was a Democrat and we legalized medical weed.
There's still a lot of liberalism here, although most of it is of the Southern Democrat variety. Our unemployment and entitlements have been pretty generous until very recently.
We have a high minimum wage and still make it easier to be broke and lazy than most of our neighbors.
That said, our last governor was a Democrat and we legalized medical weed.
There's still a lot of liberalism here, although most of it is of the Southern Democrat variety. Our unemployment and entitlements have been pretty generous until very recently.
We have a high minimum wage and still make it easier to be broke and lazy than most of our neighbors.
This post was edited on 4/15/17 at 11:28 pm
Posted on 4/15/17 at 11:27 pm to Homesick Tiger
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Or here. Little Rock and Pine Bluff would be his only strongholds. That ain't enough to get him over the hump.
Fayetteville went for Hillary.
Fayetteville election results 2016
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