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If GOPe/Democrats want to save DACA, they should compromise to give Trump the wall
Posted on 9/1/17 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 9/1/17 at 4:17 pm
And more funding for more tough immigration enforcement as well in exchange to keep DACA in place.
It's an issue that's just begging for compromise where everyone can get something for themselves and the political risk with their bases would be negated and cancel each other out.
Personally I want DACA gone but this compromise can be made because it's a good compromise but it can only be made in good faith.
It's an issue that's just begging for compromise where everyone can get something for themselves and the political risk with their bases would be negated and cancel each other out.
Personally I want DACA gone but this compromise can be made because it's a good compromise but it can only be made in good faith.
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Posted on 9/1/17 at 4:18 pm to Sentrius
Agree. Would prefer DACA gone though
Posted on 9/1/17 at 4:20 pm to Sentrius
Why can't we have both?
Posted on 9/1/17 at 4:21 pm to Sentrius
I think the establishment will never in good faith work with Trump.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 4:21 pm to Sentrius
That's a great idea actually.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 4:23 pm to Turbeauxdog
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Why can't we have both?
I want both but I'm not above making reasonable compromises if it can be done in good faith but my terms would have to come first in action as frick getting hoodwinked like Reagan did with Tip O'Neill on amnesty.
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 9/1/17 at 4:23 pm to PrimeTime Money
Smart art of the deal.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 4:27 pm to Sentrius
DACA needs to go. Period. End of discussion.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 4:28 pm to Sentrius
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Personally I want DACA gone but this compromise can be made because it's a good compromise but it can only be made in good faith.
I've got an opposite perspective. Give the dreamers green cards and move on. I think the wall won't be worth the cost and probably your typical government boondoggle.
That being said, I'd be willing to make that deal. At this point, I'd rather the wall and build a little trust and cooperation. It's got to start somewhere, and this is a deal I think most could stomach.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 4:29 pm to Sentrius
There isnt going to be a wall and DACA wont be repealed, there is no need to negotiate either. Trump loss x 2
Posted on 9/1/17 at 4:32 pm to Sentrius
There's no chance Congress wants to give Trump a tremendous legislative win with a comprehensive immigration bill.
They'd rather complain and point fingers.
They'd rather complain and point fingers.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 4:36 pm to Lakeboy7
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There isnt going to be a wall
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DACA wont be repealed
If Trump leaves it in place without a deal like this, conservative AG's from red states will sue to get rid of DACA and they will be successful and odds are in their favor given the SCOTUS makeup right now.
The biggest pressure to get rid of DACA is coming from them.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 4:39 pm to Lakeboy7
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DACA wont be repealed
Bless your heart.
When you realize DACA is not legislation, come on back and we can talk.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 4:47 pm to Sentrius
Democrats and moderates are playing this "administration" perfectly, just sit back and let Trump destroy himself everyday, that also neutralizes republican advatanges in congress. Not many want to be on a sinking ship.
Let Trump go hard after DACA, repeal no repeal Trump loses.
Let Trump go hard after DACA, repeal no repeal Trump loses.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 4:53 pm to Sentrius
Trump should sign an order to end DACA in a given time frame, say 3 months. At that same time, tell Congress to come up with immigration reform or they are all going home. Tell them he will sign any legislation on immigration they agree on. Basically make Congress quit being babies and do their job.
We may hate the legislation or we may love it, that is what we have elections for. Make them do their job though, we should not have EO governing us, we should have laws.
We may hate the legislation or we may love it, that is what we have elections for. Make them do their job though, we should not have EO governing us, we should have laws.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 4:57 pm to Sentrius
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And more funding for more tough immigration enforcement as well in exchange to keep DACA in place
Agree, but really want DACA gone. If we have to keep it, it should be revised to let them stay only if they have no criminal records, are not drawing welfare, are enlisted or in school, or are gainfully employed, but with no path, ever, to citizenship, no path to bring relatives to the US, no right to vote, no "in state" tuition, etc. There should be detriments to being brought into the country illegally by parents, not rewards.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 5:02 pm to Lakeboy7
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Democrats and moderates are playing this "administration" perfectly,
They've already lost the immigration debate.
They were loudly professing their love for open borders immigration and zero efforts to fight illegal immigration before Trump won the election
And now they're just reduced to calling out Trump for being mean to illegal immigrants while saying that we can't have unchecked illegal immigration.
Even a limp wristed moderate like Paul Ryan says we need tough borders and a wall.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 5:20 pm to Lakeboy7
"Not many want to be on a sinking ship."
True. So with your firsthand experience in the matter, can you share with us what it is that has made you not only want to stay on the sinking progressive democrat ship but actually tie yourself to the bow of said ship?
True. So with your firsthand experience in the matter, can you share with us what it is that has made you not only want to stay on the sinking progressive democrat ship but actually tie yourself to the bow of said ship?
Posted on 9/1/17 at 5:21 pm to Sentrius
Agreed.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 5:22 pm to Sentrius
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calling out Trump for being mean to illegal immigrants while saying that we can't have unchecked illegal immigration.
And guess what? it will work
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