re: I like Ann Coulter's Plan For Dealing With the Islamic Terrorists

Most people are too dumb to understand that Coulter uses hyperbole to make her points.

quote:

---

Most people are too dumb to understand that Coulter uses hyperbole to make her points.

---

I like Coulter. However, there is a line between hyperbole and stupidity. She crossed it in this instance.

What is really hilarious is that Maher, as much as he disagrees, gets it

Ann Coulter that is

One thing I like about him is that he is not afraid to confront competing ideas head on

quote:

---

No offense but i think im gonna go with Ike over your take.

---

no son you would have supported stevenson the ultimate low T cuck.

quote:

---

Nuke the nest and get 500 years of revenge attacks

---

that's certainly been the case with those dastardly japs!





i especially liked the way we dehumanized them by depicting them as animals.

if we had done it your way son we'd still be fighting that war.

doing it your way is why we've been fighting a war for 16 years aginst a country without an air force.

actually that's not quite true doing it your way would have been surrendering to our muslim overlords after the trade center attack.

quote:

---

Drop a nuke where exactly?

---

It's not gonna happen. You don't have to worry about fleeing.

quote:

---

Ike was wrong.

No offense but i think im gonna go with Ike over your take.

---

You'd be wrong to do that.

"For the most part, Suzuki's military-dominated cabinet favored continuing the war. For the Japanese, surrender was unthinkable—Japan had never been successfully invaded or lost a war in its history.[19] Only Mitsumasa Yonai, the Navy minister, was known to desire an early end to the war.[20] According to historian Richard B. Frank:

Although Suzuki might indeed have seen peace as a distant goal, he had no design to achieve it within any immediate time span or on terms acceptable to the Allies. His own comments at the conference of senior statesmen gave no hint that he favored any early cessation of the war ... Suzuki's selections for the most critical cabinet posts were, with one exception, not advocates of peace either.[21]"
"...These "twin shocks"—the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and the Soviet entry—had immediate profound effects on Prime Minister Suzuki and Foreign Minister Togo Shigenori, who concurred that the government must end the war at once.[91] However, the senior leadership of the Japanese Army took the news in stride, grossly underestimating the scale of the attack. With the support of Minister of War Anami, they started preparing to impose martial law on the nation, to stop anyone attempting to make peace.[92] Hirohito told Kido to "quickly control the situation" because "the Soviet Union has declared war and today began hostilities against us."[93]

LINK

Ike was wrong. The Japanese had no idea of surrendering - even after two atomic bomb strikes.

The Bomb Didn’t Beat Japan … Stalin Did

Gen. Anami on Aug. 13 remarked that the atomic bombings were no more menacing than the fire-bombing that Japan had endured for months. If Hiroshima and Nagasaki were no worse than the fire bombings, and if Japan’s leaders did not consider them important enough to discuss in depth, how can Hiroshima and Nagasaki have coerced them to surrender?

Strategic significance

If the Japanese were not concerned with city bombing in general or the atomic bombing of Hiroshima in particular, what were they concerned with? The answer
is simple: the Soviet Union.

The Japanese were in a relatively difficult strategic situation. They were nearing the end of a war they were losing. Conditions were bad. The Army, however, was still strong and well-supplied. Nearly 4 million men were under arms and 1.2 million of those were guarding Japan’s home islands.

Even the most hard-line leaders in Japan’s government knew that the war could not go on. The question was not whether to continue, but how to bring the war to a close under the best terms possible. The Allies (the United States, Great Britain, and others — the Soviet Union, remember, was still neutral) were demanding “unconditional surrender.” Japan’s leaders hoped that they might be able to figure out a way to avoid war crimes trials, keep their form of government, and keep some of the territories they’d conquered: Korea, Vietnam, Burma, parts of Malaysia and Indonesia, a large portion of eastern China, and numerous islands in the Pacific.

"...The impact of the Soviet declaration of war and invasion of Manchuria and Sakhalin Island was quite different, however. Once the Soviet Union had declared war, Stalin could no longer act as a mediator — he was now a belligerent. So the diplomatic option was wiped out by the Soviet move. The effect on the military situation was equally dramatic. Most of Japan’s best troops had been shifted to the southern part of the home islands. Japan’s military had correctly guessed that the likely first target of an American invasion would be the southernmost island of Kyushu. The once proud Kwangtung army in Manchuria, for example, was a shell of its former self because its best units had been shifted away to defend Japan itself. When the Russians invaded Manchuria, they sliced through what had once been an elite army and many Russian units only stopped when they ran out of gas. The Soviet 16th Army — 100,000 strong — launched an invasion of the southern half of Sakhalin Island. Their orders were to mop up Japanese resistance there, and then — within 10 to 14 days — be prepared to invade Hokkaido, the northernmost of Japan’s home islands. The Japanese force tasked with defending Hokkaido, the 5th Area Army, was under strength at two divisions and two brigades, and was in fortified positions on the east side of the island. The Soviet plan of attack called for an invasion of Hokkaido from the west.

It didn’t take a military genius to see that, while it might be possible to fight a decisive battle against one great power invading from one direction, it would not be possible to fight off two great powers attacking from two different directions. The Soviet invasion invalidated the military’s decisive battle strategy, just as it invalidated the diplomatic strategy. At a single stroke, all of Japan’s options evaporated. The Soviet invasion was strategically decisive — it foreclosed both of Japan’s options — while the bombing of Hiroshima (which foreclosed neither) was not."

LINK

quote:

---

especially liked the way we dehumanized them by depicting them as animals.

if we had done it your way son we'd still be fighting that war.

doing it your way is why we've been fighting a war for 16 years aginst a country without an air force.

actually that's not quite true doing it your way would have been surrendering to our muslim overlords after the trade center attack.

---

Well we've accomplished so much since then. Derp

I like how you're equivocating a military force that represents a country with a rogue group that operates in multiple countries. Maybe we should nuke everyone that isnt in America, just to be sure

quote:

---

Uhh no. Eisenhower disagrees with you.

---

So what?

quote:

---

that's certainly been the case with those dastardly japs!

---

Do you really need someone to explain the differences?