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"Hate speech" is protected speech; Nazi flags/marches do not "incite violence
Posted on 8/15/17 at 8:50 am
Posted on 8/15/17 at 8:50 am
this picture is making the rounds on social media. it's logically, legally, and morally incorrect
i have a question for anyone who thinks that "hate speech" should not be protected by the 1st Amendment or who believe that a peaceful march of human filth is "inciting violence": what general safeguards do you want to put on the government so that YOUR speech is eternally protected? you want the government to pick and choose speech that it protects, so how do you protect YOUR speech moving forward?
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 8:54 am to SlowFlowPro
"Effectively" and "Tantamount" made me lol.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 9:01 am to SlowFlowPro
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this picture is making the rounds on social media. it's logically, legally, and morally incorrect
I want to believe the vast majority out there believe they have the right, the key term there is peaceful.
Is any group that believes anything immune from agitation in todays environment? doesnt appear that way. All these groups prepare for and expect violence.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 9:01 am to SlowFlowPro
So the group that opposes the Nazi group want to do the same thing that they are protesting the Nazi for doing? Makes sense ...or not.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 9:01 am to SlowFlowPro
We all know how this works.
1. It's ok to punch Nazis and white supremacists
2. Trump is literally Hitler
3. All white Trump supporters are white supremacists
4. Trump supporters wear MAGA hats
5. It's OK to punch all white people wearing MAGA hats
1. It's ok to punch Nazis and white supremacists
2. Trump is literally Hitler
3. All white Trump supporters are white supremacists
4. Trump supporters wear MAGA hats
5. It's OK to punch all white people wearing MAGA hats
Posted on 8/15/17 at 9:02 am to SlowFlowPro
Dangerous time for our country. A bunch of us called this yesterday.
They finally got what they wanted, a death at one of these rallys. They're going to use it to begin to restrict speech and assembly. Terrifying time for America right now.
They finally got what they wanted, a death at one of these rallys. They're going to use it to begin to restrict speech and assembly. Terrifying time for America right now.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 9:03 am to SlowFlowPro
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i have a question for anyone who thinks that "hate speech" should not be protected by the 1st Amendment or who believe that a peaceful march of human filth is "inciting violence": what general safeguards do you want to put on the government so that YOUR speech is eternally protected? you want the government to pick and choose speech that it protects, so how do you protect YOUR speech moving forward?
It is a perilous slippery slope -- one that gives the government far too much authority to arbitrarily silence people. What is acceptable today, may not be tomorrow. If liberals are so quick to give the government a reason to censor speech they don't agree with, that same government may decide to censor their own speech tomorrow.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 9:04 am to SlowFlowPro
You made a prediction a few days ago that by year's end the first amendment itself would be called racist.
Not a bad bet at this rate.
Not a bad bet at this rate.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 9:04 am to SlowFlowPro
The part I enjoyed was where the two Progs pretended to intellectually grapple with The First Amendment. Yeah, that never happened.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 9:05 am to SlowFlowPro
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morally incorrect
depends on how one interprets "we must oppose them with all resources available to us"
if "all resources available to us" means a fist (or worse) then you're right
if "all resources available to us" simply means opposing Nazis via counterprotesting and speaking out against their position, i don't see what the problem with that is.
saying " i really want to punch him" and actually punching him are two totally different hings.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 9:06 am to SlowFlowPro
I'm pretty sure incitement is when you are in a group of people and you start riling up the mob and are trying to get them to attack the other group.
I'm not a lawyer so I may be wrong.
But simply flying a flag 100% does not qualify.
I'm not a lawyer so I may be wrong.
But simply flying a flag 100% does not qualify.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 9:06 am to ibldprplgld
These people can't even see far enough in advance to know that the tranny fad will destroy women's rights.
How do you expect them to predict that in the future, everyone may not agree with their beliefs? Their bubble is so thick now, they think 99 percent agree with them currently.
How do you expect them to predict that in the future, everyone may not agree with their beliefs? Their bubble is so thick now, they think 99 percent agree with them currently.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 9:06 am to Lakeboy7
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Is any group that believes anything immune from agitation in todays environment?
no but the agitation is from the outside, not the group itself. any blame for escalation should be blamed on those who instigate this agitation and violence. look if Nazis show up to disrupt peaceful leftist protests, then they can frick themselves. i don't think this has occurred, however
now leftists showing up to disrupt right wing marches with violence? has happened a metric frick ton this year
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All these groups prepare for and expect violence.
after the incident at Berkeley where left wing authoritarians used violence to silence Milo and riot? yes
do we really expect the right wing people who are legally permitted to march to just accept violence?
Posted on 8/15/17 at 9:08 am to Ross
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You made a prediction a few days ago that by year's end the first amendment itself would be called racist.
#Itiscoming
Posted on 8/15/17 at 9:08 am to SlowFlowPro
For the fiftyith billion time, it blows my mind these people can never see it will eventually be used on them.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 9:09 am to SlowFlowPro
On the plus side, maybe the right can play the same game.
Socialism has a very high death count. One could make a similar argument that being a proponent of socialism is being a proponent of poverty and death. It is ok to punch those inciting poverty and death. It is ok to punch a socialist.
There are far more socialists in America to punch. Open season on their asses.
Socialism has a very high death count. One could make a similar argument that being a proponent of socialism is being a proponent of poverty and death. It is ok to punch those inciting poverty and death. It is ok to punch a socialist.
There are far more socialists in America to punch. Open season on their asses.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 9:09 am to Draconian Sanctions
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saying " i really want to punch him" and actually punching him are two totally different hings.
Not according to the end of that comic strip theyre not. I bet that went over the author's head.
It's the same fricking dude in the comic. That's a perfect representation of hypocritical liberal ignorance.
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 9:13 am
Posted on 8/15/17 at 9:09 am to Draconian Sanctions
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depends on how one interprets "we must oppose them with all resources available to us"
i'm not talking about the response. i'm only talking about the view
censorship is morally incorrect
of course violence is morally incorrect, too
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saying " i really want to punch him" and actually punching him are two totally different hings.
i agree, and that's pretty ironic given the general discussion at hand
Posted on 8/15/17 at 9:10 am to SlowFlowPro
Hate speech is protect
but the Nazi groups showed up for a fight and violence.
but the Nazi groups showed up for a fight and violence.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 9:10 am to Blob Fish
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Socialism has a very high death count. One could make a similar argument that being a proponent of socialism is being a proponent of poverty and death. It is ok to punch those inciting poverty and death. It is ok to punch a socialist.
they will claim ANTIFA = "anarchists" and not associated with the left. it's what they always do
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