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re: Hadji strikes again. Targets Christians in Egypt. 23 dead.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:38 am to WaWaWeeWa
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:38 am to WaWaWeeWa
Hmmm.
I'm looking for the part that says we know this is a rule of law directly from the mouth of god.
I did just fine with them for over a decade, so I imagine that wouldn't likely change.
I'm also not sure why you continue to push that bullshite line about "US policy" when I picked your arse apart in the other thread.
I'm looking for the part that says we know this is a rule of law directly from the mouth of god.
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I'm sure all your Islamic brothers in the middle east wouldn't make you pay the jizya if you simply explain to them that the source of their anger is US policy and that we can all be friends. I think you will be fine as long as you use the conversational skills you so eloquently demonstrate on this board
I did just fine with them for over a decade, so I imagine that wouldn't likely change.
I'm also not sure why you continue to push that bullshite line about "US policy" when I picked your arse apart in the other thread.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:39 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Thanks religion.
Sure. Because religion is the cause of all our social-ills. Clown post.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:40 am to Jorts R Us
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Because religion is the cause of all our social-ills.
Is that what I said?
Hint: It isn't.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:44 am to Crimson1st
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I could just as easily allege you have quite a few things in common with these terrorists...you breathe the same air they breathe, you eat and drink like they do, you have probably shot a gun before like them, etc
Sure, and I'd guess you have those very same things in common, with one critical addition.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:47 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Ok so not all social ills, but you imply that massacres like this are a result of religion existing. It's an extremist branch of one religion that's to blame. Not religion in its entirety.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:51 am to Jorts R Us
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you imply that massacres like this are a result of religion existing.
I stated plainly, twice I believe, that these attacks are driven by their religion.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:54 am to DawgsLife
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And when an atheist kills somebody....is that a condemnation for all atheists?
When a human kills another human to please his God.. then yeah it's a condemnation for religion. At least afainst Avrahamic religions or other religions with a violent deity
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:58 am to DisplacedBuckeye
That's cool. Kind of a lazy, vague statement without details, though.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:00 am to bamarep
One of the Coptic Christians must have made a video.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:01 am to Jorts R Us
Sure, but even if I wrote out 50k words, I wouldn't change a single mind here. Men much more intelligent than me have tried.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:02 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Look at you, missing the point.
answer the question re: Pol Pot's religion.
and if your argument is that, while these monsters were all admittedly atheists (they were), you obviously espouse a more enlightened variant of atheism, then you've talked yourself into a circle.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:08 am to bamarep
The Saudis are the creators of this Frankenstein and should be treated as an accomplice in all of the Sunni Wahhabi terrorists activities. More precisely, the House of Saud has used its wealth to spread this cancer. At some point, we have to be honest about this fact.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:14 am to McLemore
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Pol Pot's religion.
Pol Pot didn't adhere to a specific mythology. He chose to take an à la carte approach to his dogmatic ideals. He derived influence from sources like Buddhism, Christianity, and Marxism. He believed in a destiny and that his destiny was to create, with force if necessary, his own version of a utopia in our world. He used the dogmatic views of his followers to his advantage, and indeed convinced them that there was a higher authority driving their actions.
He certainly wasn't a Buddhist or a Christian, but there is nothing atheistic about that. At best, you could label him an antitheist, but that wouldn't bother me any more than a claim that he also enjoyed eating apples more than oranges.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:18 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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I'm looking for the part that says we know this is a rule of law directly from the mouth of god.
God promises in the Quran, “We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly Guard it (from corruption)” (15:9).
Sharia law is a legal system and social construct for society. It has clearly defined rules. Islam is unique in that it combines religion and politics. This is a unique challenge when hoping for secularization of a religion.
Pew Poll
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Faith is often expressed through the observance of the law. The failure to follow Islamic law is a reflection of the believer’s lack of faith and unwillingness to submit to God. Salvation is impossible without law. This has implications for the nature of the Islamic state.
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One could go further and advocate not only for a progressive interpretation of Islamic law but also for its basic irrelevance to public life—that the separation of religion from politics forms the foundation of any pluralistic post-Enlightenment liberal society. The heavy weight of Islamic history, however, makes such a path as dif?cult as it is unlikely.
LINK
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:20 am to WaWaWeeWa
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God promises in the Quran, “We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly Guard it (from corruption)” (15:9).
Sure, but you asked how many I know that "come with a rule of law directly from the mouth of god."
That answer remains zero.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:22 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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I'm also not sure why you continue to push that bull shite line about "US policy" when I picked your arse apart in the other thread.
Do you want to revisit your posts from the previous thread? Maybe you need a reminder:
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What we got going on in here?
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I don't really know anything about you (alter), but you're a few steps behind here. Just trying to help you out.
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Simple is my jam.
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Makes me miss NT.
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Yeah, I think he did. I saw his last few posts. I didn't see anything that called for it, but I suppose that's not meaningful with him at this point anyway.
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Jesus, dude. At least make it sporting.
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Yes. I recommend Oxford if you're confused. Ask questions as necessary.
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Mostly for the laughs. We have that in common.
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What questions have you asked me that you feel I haven't sufficiently addressed?
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I already answered that.Neither have you. Either way, looks like this thread dried up. Enjoy your night.
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Likely because that's exactly what you did.So? There are "factions" within this country that hate them for various reasons. That is a relatively meaningless point. This is an intellectually weak thing to say, and it's apparent you have zero experience with the people. Have you ever even met a Muslim person? That's a serious question. Yeah, maybe one day the dude with maybe the most experience working with the people we are discussing will "get it." Well, I could say the same with any number of religions. You cool with that?
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Here you go. You're welcome.
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Also, it's interesting that you posted what you did instead of replying to anything else that I said. Very interesting...alter.
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Correct. There's no need when you properly frame your point. You didn't do that initially. Now you have. It's cool to admit you were wrong.
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Which is wrong. That wasn't the question in the OP. For reference, this was the question in the OP:
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Your understanding of this topic is incomplete, at best. You don't understand the people, you don't understand their religion, you don't understand their motivations. Hell, you don't even understand the link you posted that kicked this bull shite tangent off. I'll ask again: Have you ever met a single Muslim?
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Then you should have just said you were wrong from the start instead of digging in. I have black friends and have heard a Kanye song. Well, yes, it does mean that. Is that what you think you provided? This alone shows that you don't know shite.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:26 am to WaWaWeeWa
Can you point out where I said our policy is the reason they hate us, as you continue to try to push?
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:28 am to WaWaWeeWa
Also, what made you snip off a significant portion of my posts?
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:32 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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I stated plainly, twice I believe, that these attacks are driven by their religion.
Please link to where you state their (implying Islam) religion. Twice please.
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Sure, but you asked how many I know that "come with a rule of law directly from the mouth of god." That answer remains zero.
What exactly is your issue with this statement? Are you denying that Muslims believe that the Quran is the word of god? Is it because I said directly "from the mouth"? I can rephrase that.
For someone who provides absolutely zero logical evidence you sure have a high standard to pick apart every single word of someone's argument while simultaneously bypassing the main point
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