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Frick the Endowment for the Arts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:56 am
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:56 am
Take that money and put into teaching kids a a skill that they can actually use: welding, electric, plumbing, pipe fitting, fixing machines.
The return on that investment would be much greater than whether or not some kid decides to paint a picture of cops depicted as pigs.
Unless you are putting food on the table and a roof over your head, the "arts" is not a job or career. ITS A FREAKING HOBBY!! To do when you are not at your JOB
The return on that investment would be much greater than whether or not some kid decides to paint a picture of cops depicted as pigs.
Unless you are putting food on the table and a roof over your head, the "arts" is not a job or career. ITS A FREAKING HOBBY!! To do when you are not at your JOB
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 11:03 am
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:58 am to Covingtontiger77
As an educator who teaches in the humanities and liberal arts, I fully support your idea. I just hope I will still have a job.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:58 am to Covingtontiger77
I dont care what happens to it as long as my tax dollars dont pay for it.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:01 am to Covingtontiger77
Take the money and give it back to taxpayers so they can spend it on what they would like
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:03 am to PoundFoolish
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PoundFoolish
start teaching welding as art.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:04 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
The NEA used to be entrenched in purveying worthwhile programming and giving grants to solid academic pursuits. In the last decade or so, they've become overwhelmingly politicized and progressive.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:04 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Take the money and give it back to taxpayers so they can spend it on what they would like
All ~$150 million of it?
Wow, the things I can buy with less than a dollar...
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:05 am to Covingtontiger77
I think it shouldn't be tax payer funded, but OP sounds like he doesn't have a talented bone in his body. Not everyone wants to do pipe fitting, not everyone thinks like you.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:17 am to olddawg26
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Not everyone wants to do pipe fitting, not everyone thinks like you.
Therein lies the problem with this country. Blue collar skilled work is dying on the vine because people are convinced that everyone needs to go to college and/or explore their "artistic" side. Newsflash, that liberal arts degree and/or going off to become an "artist" doesn't pay the bills for 99.9% of the those that go that route. The result of this thinking is the creation of lock step "nanny state" believers that want phones, housing, food, on the backs of people that have marketable skills.
I want to go off and explore my potential in golf, to see if I can make the PGA. You see this is a hobby. I don't make money doing this. We don't have a house or food if I go this route. This is what you call a HOBBY.
IF YOU CAN NOT MAKE A LIVING DOING SOMETHING, IT IS NOT A JOB...IT'S A HOBBY!!
People's "hobbies" should not be funded by the US taxpayer.
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 11:19 am
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:18 am to Covingtontiger77
Art is how we reflect on ourselves as a society. With no endowment who will pay for piss Jesus and Sesame Street that tells your kid to be gay when they grow up
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:19 am to Covingtontiger77
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I want to go off and explore my potential in golf, to see if I can make the PGA. You see this is a hobby. I don't make money doing this. We don't have a house or food if I go this route. This is what you call a HOBBY. IF YOU CAN NOT MAKE A LIVING DOING SOMETHING, IT IS NOT A JOB...IT'S A HOBBY!!
Yet if we don't allow people to explore those options we'll end up in a society with no entertainment, no PGA Tour, no art museums, no movies, no TV shows. Everyone is a plumber or pipe fitter. Is that your utopia?
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:22 am to cameronml
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Yet if we don't allow people to explore those options we'll end up in a society with no entertainment, no PGA Tour, no art museums, no movies, no TV shows. Everyone is a plumber or pipe fitter. Is that your utopia?
You really think that? Ok, well listen send me your Paypal link and I'll send you mine and you can fund me on my quest to paint and sculpt.
Thanks
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:22 am to Covingtontiger77
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Therein lies the problem with this country. Blue collar skilled work is dying on the vine because people are convinced that everyone needs to go to college and/or explore their "artistic" side. Newsflash, that liberal arts degree and/or going off to become an "artist" doesn't pay the bills for 99.9% of the those that go that route. The result of this thinking is the creation of lock step "nanny state" believers that want phones, housing, food, on the backs of people that have marketable skills.
Oh, another thing. Blue collar work is dying because of automation and the lack of blue collar jobs that exist. People don't want blue collar jobs because they're smart enough to realize there is no future in them and they are on the chopping block of automation from corporations. There is nothing to idealize about a blue collar job in the 21st century.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:23 am to Covingtontiger77
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You really think that? Ok, well listen send me your Paypal link and I'll send you mine and you can fund me on my quest to paint and sculpt. Thanks
Is the government paying for you to do that today?
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:25 am to cameronml
Interesting. When was the last time a robot came to your house to fix a pipe, electric socket, your car, or weld pipes at the ship yard?
Interestingly enough I was out at Bollinger last week and all saw were people going to weld and fabricate parts for ships...no robots. Oh yeah, I also talked to a supervisor and he confirmed that they are having difficulty finding qualified pipe fitters and welders due to a labor shortage of qualified young people with these skills.
Interestingly enough I was out at Bollinger last week and all saw were people going to weld and fabricate parts for ships...no robots. Oh yeah, I also talked to a supervisor and he confirmed that they are having difficulty finding qualified pipe fitters and welders due to a labor shortage of qualified young people with these skills.
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 11:29 am
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:27 am to Covingtontiger77
What do you do for a living out there in Covington?
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:27 am to cameronml
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Is the government paying for you to do that today?
In your world it should, shouldn't it?
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:29 am to Covingtontiger77
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Sharon, the NEA is a loser. Yeah, it accounts for a penny out of our paycheck, but he gets to hit you with it anytime he wants. It doesn’t cost money, it costs votes. It costs airtime and column inches. You know why people don’t like liberals? Because they lose. If liberals are so fricking smart, how come they lose so goddamn always?
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:30 am to Covingtontiger77
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In your world it should, shouldn't it?
No. If the NEA did that it's budget would be much larger than $148M, smart guy.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:31 am to olddawg26
quote:Yeah, it's not all Mapplethorpe and piss jar crucifixes.
I think it shouldn't be tax payer funded, but OP sounds like he doesn't have a talented bone in his body. Not everyone wants to do pipe fitting, not everyone thinks like you.
Without conservatives, any country would get rolled over in a week, but without liberalism (true liberalism), life would not be worth living.
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