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For anyone in favor of taking the side of removing Confederate symbols...

Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:25 am
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:25 am
This is an honest question.

Do you also support removing Washington, Jefferson etc...

What about the U.S. Flag?

If you are against the Confederacy symbols but for the others can you explain how you can justify one in your mind but not the other?
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 11:26 am
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5844 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:27 am to
i have a very honest question for you. why does the south hang on to a horrible part of our history? we were in the wrong and lost but yet we still celebrate it.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:28 am to
I like the founders and the flag. I don't like the national anthem. It's a crappy piece of music compared to Russia and France.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:29 am to
I only favor removing them from Government property.

I favor that because it is not a recognized sovereign nation, and hasn't been for 150 years.


Washington, Jefferson, the US falg, etc., are are representatives of the United States of America, which is the legitimate, sovereign nation of which I'm a citizen.
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 11:30 am
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:29 am to
quote:

i have a very honest question for you. why does the south hang on to a horrible part of our history? we were in the wrong and lost but yet we still celebrate it.

You're confused.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30814 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:31 am to
quote:

I only favor removing them from Government property.

I favor that because it is not a recognized sovereign nation, and hasn't been for 150 years.


This is fair.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:31 am to
Because we are proud that the Southern states took a stand and pushed back against the Federal government.

And I am proud of my family for answering the call.
Posted by AggieDub14
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:31 am to
Well this isn't going how you planned
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:32 am to
If the US had lost the Revolution I would still be proud of my ancestor whom was a body guard for George Washington. I am still proud of my great grandfather whom fought for the south. I would not denounce any of my family for serving.
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:32 am to
quote:

i have a very honest question for you. why does the south hang on to a horrible part of our history? we were in the wrong and lost but yet we still celebrate it.


Because apparently, the South has been ambushed by the Cold War of Northern Aggression.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:32 am to
quote:

I favor that because it is not a recognized sovereign nation, and hasn't been for 150 years.


MLK and a host of other monuments aren't sovereign countries. Should they be removed also?
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 11:33 am
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30814 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:33 am to
quote:

i have a very honest question for you. why does the south hang on to a horrible part of our history? we were in the wrong and lost but yet we still celebrate it.


The overwhelming majority of the people who fought for the Confederacy were not slave owners or fighting to keep slaves.

Posted by AggieDub14
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:33 am to
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MLK and a host of other monuments aren't sovereign countries. Should they be removed also?



You should probably figure out what soverign means. And country. Also basic reading comprehension skills.
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 11:35 am
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:34 am to
quote:

If you are against the Confederacy symbols but for the others can you explain how you can justify one in your mind but not the other?



I think we should have more monuments, more parks, more nods to the complicated history that made us. We should acknowledge everything in my view.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:34 am to
quote:

soverign


Is that an English word?
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79115 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:35 am to
Removing, as if they were never there? No.

But I also don't object, in theory, to taking confederate symbols out of places of public prominence and moving them to a setting that recognizes their historic significance and is available to the public and protected.

My basis for this isn't that we should whitewash anything relating to slavery, it's that maybe we don't need to keep markers of the confederacy around in celebratory fashion. Museums, battlefields, historic sites, etc. seem ripe places for those monuments.
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:35 am to
If these statues and symbols were erected in that brief period when the CSA was a sovereign state, then maybe I would see them as having historical value, or as a link to a society that has come and gone.

They weren't, so I don't.

This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 11:36 am
Posted by AggieDub14
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Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:36 am to
You're trolling right?
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:38 am to
Nah. Your haughty lecturing doesn't work as well when you can't spell words correctly.
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5844 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:38 am to
care to explain how i am confused?
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