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Financial firms lead shareholder rebellion against ExxonMobil climate change policies

Posted on 6/1/17 at 5:39 am
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 5:39 am
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The shareholder vote on climate change came on a day when President Trump appeared to be nearing a decision on whether to exit the Paris climate agreement, underlining the deep political and economic divisions over how to deal with the global challenge. Even as the Trump administration’s commitment to the climate accord wavered, the Exxon vote showed that climate concerns were gaining ground in the business world.


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BlackRock and Vanguard are the biggest shareholders in ExxonMobil, owning 13 percent, or $43.6 billion worth, of the company’s stock. State Street Global Advisers, another big financial advisory firm that has called for greater climate disclosures, is close behind with 5.1 percent of the stock. The vote by them against management marked an important step for groups that have been trying to force corporations to adopt greater disclosure and transparency about the financial fallout of climate change.


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The prospect of major financial management firms joining pension funds such as California’s and New York’s that have backed social and environmental resolutions in the past is already putting some companies on the defensive.


Curious about the opinions of the board on this. When major investment firms start joining with state pension funds to influence major corporations to take action on climate change, you're not discussing fringe studies conducted by lab rats, you are dealing with real world implications of the science of climate change having an impact on the economy.

Does this trend disturb you guys in any way?
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62355 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 5:43 am to
I'm just not understanding the play here. They are stockholders in an oil company wanting them to use less oil? Or is there something they want them to do that drives up oil prices?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111485 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 5:44 am to
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When major investment firms start joining with state pension funds to influence major corporations to take action on climate change, you're not discussing fringe studies conducted by lab rats, you are dealing with real world implications of the science of climate change having an impact on the economy.


It's fascinating to watch. That's for sure. Must be a lot of money to be made in carbon swaps.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
24234 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 5:45 am to
They want them to stress test their assets through 2040 to see what financial impact the regulation to limit climate change will have on the company.
Posted by LSUKNUT
Naples, Florida
Member since Jun 2007
2314 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 5:49 am to
FYI

Big Oil is and has been heavily invested in renewable energy because he who finds the worlds next big source of energy becomes King. Big Oil wants to stay on top and they have the money to do it.
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
9576 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 6:19 am to
I thought only the Democrats were invested in renewable energy. That's why they're in on the conspiracy
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 6:30 am to

It doesn't seem surprising at all that large corporation would see the potential money to be made from the scam that is "climate change", and push for measures involving it. Government mandates for people to buy your products! Just like ObamaCare and mandatory purchases of insurance.

Big business buying into it does not validate a bullshite hoax like "climate change". Snake oil salesmen.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98276 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 6:32 am to
I am just about tired of anything to do with California.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
24234 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 6:33 am to
You're giving an opinion without bothering to read the link.

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ExxonMobil management was defeated Wednesday by a shareholder rebellion over climate change, as investors with 62.3 percent of shares voted to instruct the oil giant to report on the impact of global measures designed to keep climate change to 2 degrees centigrade.


Exxon wanted nothing to do with this.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 6:34 am to
Leftists are like termites
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54192 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 6:37 am to
In the first paragraph:

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as investors with 62.3 percent of shares voted to instruct the oil giant to report on the impact of global measures designed to keep climate change to 2 degrees centigrade.


This tells me the 62% just want to know the costs, not that they agree something needs to be done.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 6:40 am to
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You're giving an opinion without bothering to read the link.

You're right..I didn't read the link.
I still don't see it as "the people" voted down big oil. The owners of the majority of shares are most likely ExxonMobil execs.
It wasn't the majority of investors, it was whatever number of people who held 62% of shares.
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 6:44 am
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
24234 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 6:41 am to
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This tells me the 62% just want to know the costs, not that they agree something needs to be done.


You really think this is just a fact finding mission without intent to expect actionable items for a path forward once that information is gathered?
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38732 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 6:44 am to
If any of those entities mentioned have anything in mind other than maximizing shareholder wealth I got a big problem with it
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123743 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 6:49 am to
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You really think this is just a fact finding mission without intent to expect actionable items for a path forward once that information is gathered?

I'd hope so.

I'd hope firms which themselves are publicly owned, would not do something to undercut stock value of an entity in which they hold large stakes. That could create huge legal issues for the firms involved.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54192 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 6:50 am to
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You really think this is just a fact finding mission without intent to expect actionable items for a path forward once that information is gathered?


I think it's about whether or not the cost to implement a program concerning global warming is worth the money. I took the article to mean if the program is not too costly then "we'll think about it".
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 6:50 am to
At last.

It was predicted that ceo's would unite the world (wto) and define both war and climate change as counter to profit and the long term health of business.

This is the first wave.

Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
6927 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 6:51 am to
The science indicates climate change is happening and investors want to know how Exxon will address that risk.

Maersk is changing its shipping routes because of it.

Investors want to know how an investment vehicle like Exxon will manage itself.

Isn't complicated at all.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
24234 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 6:58 am to
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I'd hope firms which themselves are publicly owned, would not do something to undercut stock value of an entity in which they hold large stakes. That could create huge legal issues for the firms involved.


My expectation is it's a way for investors to force Exxon to provide analysis on whether or not to keep investing in the company moving forward barring some change in fundamental operation for an economy beyond oil. I'm not trying to stack the deck of this conversation, I'm just curious of opinions from the board, especially individuals like you, who's opinion I greatly respect.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123743 posts
Posted on 6/1/17 at 7:00 am to
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Maersk is changing its shipping routes because of it.


Maersk is seeking ways to more efficiently transport payloads. As that coincides with a politically correct albeit scientifically flawed narrative, bully for Maersk in taking advantage of the stupid people willing to swallow its PR.
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