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Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:11 am
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Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:25 am to DelU249
One day you all will understand that the DHS and the FBI are actually pretty good at what they do. And that while Trump's comments do have some truth to them, it's politically ignorant to profess them two days after someone is killed. Republicans claim to be members of a party of common sense, but it appears to be lacking in this ordeal.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:28 am to DelU249
That's because Trump generally could give two fricks about scoring political points.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:54 am to cahoots
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to them, it's politically ignorant to profess them two days
I missed the part where trump was criticized throughout the media and by liberal activists for that reason.
He was criticized as being racist and empowering white supremacy nice try though. it also wasn't politically ignorant IMO. He knew it wasn't convenient for him politically but he told the truth anyway.
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And that while Trump's comments do have some truth
-violence is wrong...both sides.
-there were also good people protesting the removal of statues
the first is an opinion that is as close to universally agreed upon as an opinion can be and the second statement was just 100% true.
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 11:08 am
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:00 am to cahoots
and now we have ryan, Rubio and Pelosi tripping over each other trying to do exactly what they criticized trump for doing...which as it turns out they knew he was right at the time and piled on him anyway for political and self serving reasons.
if you're willing to admire and defend political hackery like that...you have Trump Derangement Syndrome
if you're willing to admire and defend political hackery like that...you have Trump Derangement Syndrome
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:22 am to DelU249
I have no interest in defending Ryan/Rubio these days
But you carrying this talking point is surprising to me
But you carrying this talking point is surprising to me
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:23 am to bamarep
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That's because Trump generally could give two fricks about scoring political points.
Trump cares about scoring vanity points, which may be distinguishable from political points
But if your point is that he doesn't care about politics, he cares about substance - LOL
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:42 am to Pettifogger
What talking point? Rubio is or was on the NSA council. You'd think being a senator would be all the juice Rubio would need to know they're designated.
Am I to believe he didn't know?
The alternative is he spoke before knowing all the relevant facts
I've also never liked Rubio. He's the biggest liar I've ever seen on a debate stage which is saying something considering hildawg was recently on one
Am I to believe he didn't know?
The alternative is he spoke before knowing all the relevant facts
I've also never liked Rubio. He's the biggest liar I've ever seen on a debate stage which is saying something considering hildawg was recently on one
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:45 am to DelU249
Point is, bashing Ryan and Rubio for giving Trump grief about Trump's shitastic statement and tying that to subsequent events is just really lazy.
And it's been promoted by the Breitbart crowd for like a week now, despite the ridiculousness of the sequencing. Maybe you came up with this line of argument on your own, but it doesn't make it any less strained.
And it's been promoted by the Breitbart crowd for like a week now, despite the ridiculousness of the sequencing. Maybe you came up with this line of argument on your own, but it doesn't make it any less strained.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:49 am to Pettifogger
We're not talking about trump because his statements need no defense. You're not even questioning whether or not he was right, but rather his intent
Rubio is the bozo who held one side superior to another to score a hit on trump. Why else would anyone want to bother choosing between domestic terrorists and racists?
So either he didn't know (he should) and prematurely weighed in before knowing everything which is a bad look for someone who is a senator and wants to be president
Or he knew...and he's a slimy weasel
Rubio is the bozo who held one side superior to another to score a hit on trump. Why else would anyone want to bother choosing between domestic terrorists and racists?
So either he didn't know (he should) and prematurely weighed in before knowing everything which is a bad look for someone who is a senator and wants to be president
Or he knew...and he's a slimy weasel
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 11:51 am
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:54 am to Pettifogger
You've got the TDS bad...what was shitastic about trump's statement...according to Rubio
Oh that's right...that trump blamed both sides for violence because both sides were being violent. What a shitastic statement. Read his tweets.
What do you think is shitastic about the comments?
Oh that's right...that trump blamed both sides for violence because both sides were being violent. What a shitastic statement. Read his tweets.
What do you think is shitastic about the comments?
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:02 pm to DelU249
I don't have TDS at all. You've got 4chan nerd syndrome, my friend. Anything controversial and caustic is the political side you want to be a part of.
Trump's statement was inarticulate shite, any you know it. He could have come out and made a well defined argument against neo nazis AND antifa - he didn't.
When people shite on him for it, it was well deserved, even if politically motivated. Using that to tie ANTIFA around the necks of GOPe politicians is just amazingly stupid and contrived.
Trump's statement was inarticulate shite, any you know it. He could have come out and made a well defined argument against neo nazis AND antifa - he didn't.
When people shite on him for it, it was well deserved, even if politically motivated. Using that to tie ANTIFA around the necks of GOPe politicians is just amazingly stupid and contrived.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:07 pm to Pettifogger
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Trump's statement was inarticulate shite, any you know it. He could have come out and made a well defined argument against neo nazis AND antifa - he didn't.
This.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:07 pm to DelU249
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We're not talking about trump because his statements need no defense. You're not even questioning whether or not he was right, but rather his intent
Rubio is the bozo who held one side superior to another to score a hit on trump. Why else would anyone want to bother choosing between domestic terrorists and racists?
So either he didn't know (he should) and prematurely weighed in before knowing everything which is a bad look for someone who is a senator and wants to be president
Or he knew...and he's a slimy weasel
Or, in reality....
Trump made a shitty statement, the country reacted, and political-to-the-core guys like Rubio and Ryan reacted.
Trump didn't deliver some breakdown about Antifa and neo nazis, he issued a clumsy statement equating multiple sides of a violent weekend, with no carve outs for the fact that the majority of protestors very likely had nothing to do with Antifa.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:11 pm to DelU249
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Federal authorities have been warning state and local officials since early 2016 that leftist extremists known as “antifa” had become increasingly confrontational and dangerous, so much so that the Department of Homeland Security formally classified their activities as “domestic terrorist violence,” according to interviews and confidential law enforcement documents obtained by POLITICO.
So then why the frick are so many police departments either uninterested or understaffed when it comes to dealing with demonstrations from a group known for "domestic terrorist violence"?
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:12 pm to Pettifogger
He didn't even handle both sides equivalently. He carved out the "good people" among the protestors and then issued statements about the violent tendencies of the "other side" and the "alt-left."
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:17 pm to Pettifogger
quote:and?
inarticulate
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He could have come out and made a well defined argument against neo nazis AND antifa - he didn't.
So this is what Rubio criticized his remarks for?
This is what you think is objectionable?
Also do you think it should have been articulate so that it would be effective? Because all these people you admire are lining up to denounce them after never having done so. The before and after is quite the contrast...seems like trump's remarks put ANTIFA in the spotlight.
and after the scrutiny that comes with that even Nancy pelosi has to go to the podium and reluctantly condemn them
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 12:22 pm
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