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Facebook corroborates APT28 activity in the 2016 election

Posted on 9/25/17 at 8:57 am
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 8:57 am
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It turned out that Facebook, without realizing it, had stumbled into the Russian operation as it was getting underway in June 2016.

At the time, cybersecurity experts at the company were tracking a Russian hacker group known as APT28, or Fancy Bear, which U.S. intelligence officials considered an arm of the Russian military intelligence service, the GRU, according to people familiar with Facebook’s activities.

Members of the Russian hacker group were best known for stealing military plans and data from political targets, so the security experts assumed that they were planning some sort of espionage operation — not a far-reaching disinformation campaign designed to shape the outcome of the U.S. presidential race.

Facebook executives shared with the FBI their suspicions that a Russian espionage operation was in the works, a person familiar with the matter said. An FBI spokesperson had no comment.

Soon thereafter, Facebook’s cyber experts found evidence that members of APT28 were setting up a series of shadowy accounts — including a persona known as Guccifer 2.0 and a Facebook page called DCLeaks — to promote stolen emails and other documents during the presidential race. Facebook officials once again contacted the FBI to share what they had seen.


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Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
6934 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 8:58 am to
first dv
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
72931 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 8:59 am to
So Zuck colluded

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118550 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 8:59 am to
So APT28 has a Facebook account.

And?
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50186 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 8:59 am to
Ok.

So Zuckerburg was working with the Russians?
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81144 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 9:00 am to
I still don't see why this is a big deal?

Left wants to espouse the virtues of "globalism" and "borders are becoming a thing of the past" but decry outsiders who have an opinion on the election ONLY when it doesn't match theirs?

What then is the point of this this article that was picked up by many US news outlets: Europe Would Elect Hillary Clinton in a Landslide

Why is that okay - because it's published by Reuters and read by tens of millions? That's less impactful than a trollish Facebook account that is read by 400,000?

And by the way, where is the "hacking"? This doesn't qualify as "hacking".
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 9:01 am
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 9:16 am to
quote:

So APT28 has a Facebook account.

And?


And independently connecting them to Guccifer 2.0 and DCLeaks?
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78817 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 9:17 am to
Same Facebook who authorized those ads to be run? Seems legit.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 9:43 am to
quote:

I still don't see why this is a big deal?

Left wants to espouse the virtues of "globalism" and "borders are becoming a thing of the past" but decry outsiders who have an opinion on the election ONLY when it doesn't match theirs?


Ok I'll just note you as not bothered by a hostile intelligence service using covert action to influence our elections. You're free to have your own opinion I guess.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 9:48 am to
Hostile intelligence service?

You talking about Brennan or clapper's CIA?

I thought you approved them mettling
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48225 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:13 am to
Have you ever heard of the Communist International? Run from Moscow they placed Soviet agents all over the Western countries. Their mission? Influence capitalist culture, society, politics and elections for the purpose of promoting the interests of the Soviet Union.

My question to you is this: Because we know that this has been happening for about 100 years, why was the Obama Administration so powerless to identify the threat and stop the threat?

Second question: Because you won't answer the first question, we can conclude that the last Democrat Admin was too incompetent to identify and stop the threat. Therefore, why should the Democrats be allowed to profit from their own incompetence? They should be punished for their incompetence, not profit from it.
Posted by bamagreycoat
Member since Oct 2012
5749 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:20 am to
I'm not very tech savvy or computer literate but aren't we supposed to have the best computer geeks in the world? Why are our geeks getting their asses kicked by Chinese and Slavic geeks left and right? Why isn't our tech community utterly embarrassed and humiliated? Why am I the only person asking these questions?
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:26 am to
quote:

My question to you is this: Because we know that this has been happening for about 100 years, why was the Obama Administration so powerless to identify the threat and stop the threat?


I think the Obama Admin could have done much more much earlier than they did. But's it's a little silly to say it's been happening under each President for the last 100 years but then you blame the last President for not stopping it.

quote:

Therefore, why should the Democrats be allowed to profit from their own incompetence? They should be punished for their incompetence, not profit from it.


Yet the current Republican President takes every opportunity to cast doubt on Russian responsibility. You think that's better?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118550 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:28 am to
quote:

And independently connecting them to Guccifer 2.0 and DCLeaks?



Why are you asking me this? I have no idea.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48225 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 3:21 pm to
quote:

I think the Obama Admin could have done much more much earlier than they did. But's it's a little silly to say it's been happening under each President for the last 100 years but then you blame the last President for not stopping it.


I blame Obama for a these things on this issue: 1) he told Putin and Medved that he would have "much more flexibility" in caving in to Russian demands after re-election; 2) he told Romney that it was ridiculous to consider Russia to be a threat to the USA; 3) Obama knew that both the Chinese and Russians were hacking the USA's computer networks yet We the People have no evidence that he did anything about it (if he did, his efforts failed); 4) if Russia's hacking and influencing were having some affect, Obama wasn't bothered about it until after Trump won.

So Obama and Hillary share the blame. As such, their political party should not benefit in any way from their own incompetence. BUT this is exactly what the Dems are trying to get away with now -- totally frick-up digital security and then try to profit from their own mistakes.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27813 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 3:28 pm to
In a free democracy, you have to win the battle of ideas. Whether from internal or external those ideas are going to impact our society. We shouldn't waste time trying to fight the spread of ideas, instead win the battle because the idea is the correct one and be able to show why.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 3:35 pm to
quote:

Members of the Russian hacker group were best known for stealing military plans and data from political targets, so the security experts assumed that they were planning some sort of espionage operation — not a far-reaching disinformation campaign designed to shape the outcome of the U.S. presidential race.



Adds on facebook. That's what brought down Hildog. Adds on Facebook.
Posted by Jyrdis
TD Premium Member Level III
Member since Aug 2015
12783 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 3:36 pm to
Is this that whole influence campaign thing? The one that wasn't really needed because Clinton was god awful enough as it was.
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