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MFn GIMP
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re: Entitlement: 91% of Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households

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but surely you don't mean to say that everyone with Muscular Dystophy who is collecting disability is a pathetic piece of shit?


Did you just choose to not read this part of my post? "Many use their "disabilities" as an excuse to sit at home and cash a check from the government. Granted, that doesn't apply to everyone"

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I know a 90 year old who walks 5 miles every day, surely I do not expect every 90 year to be able to do so, and would not incorporate that when creating a standard by which 90 year olds would be measured.

make sense?

There are very few disabled people who can't do some sort of work.


HailHailtoMichigan!
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re: Entitlement: 91% of Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households
Does this "study" only include federal aid?


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Meauxjeaux
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re: Entitlement: 91% of Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households
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51.2 million
Number of people who have some level of disability. They represent 18 percent of the population.

32.5 million
Number of people with a severe disability. They represent 12 percent of the population.


Does this mean that 84 million out of 300 million people in this country are disabled?


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Powerman
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re: Entitlement: 91% of Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households
I would like to know how many of the "disabled" are capable of working.


HailHailtoMichigan!
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re: Entitlement: 91% of Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households
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I would like to know how many of the "disabled" are capable of working.
80-90%, which makes the study BS.


Queen
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re: Entitlement: 91% of Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households
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There are very few disabled people who can't do some sort of work.


That's what I wonder...especially with the amount of computer and home-based work available now. Seems if your brain functions at all you can work.


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VOR
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re: Entitlement: 91% of Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households
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80-90%, which makes the study BS.


Did I miss something? Is there any evidence to support that assertion?


infantry1026
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Louisiana
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re: Entitlement: 91% of Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households
I arrested a guy a few weeks ago who is disabled. He is 27, and does not work because his disability is ADD


And I could probably recount hundreds of people that I deal with that are similar to this :banghead:


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HailHailtoMichigan!
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re: Entitlement: 91% of Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households
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Is there any evidence to support that assertion?

No, but is there any evidence that asserts that disability means you can't work?


VOR
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re: Entitlement: 91% of Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households
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No, but is there any evidence that asserts that disability means you can't work?


I would say there is evidence to support the proposition that the majority of those receiving SS disability payments are not frauds.


HailHailtoMichigan!
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re: Entitlement: 91% of Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households
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I would say there is evidence to support the proposition that the majority of those receiving SS disability payments are not frauds.
Many of these ridiculous disability claims are legal, not fraudulent.


Iona Fan Man
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Member since Jan 2006
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re: Entitlement: 91% of Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households
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Many of these ridiculous disability claims are legal, not fraudulent.


and why did the medical community determine to allow these legal claims? What's in it for them to do so?


VOR
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re: Entitlement: 91% of Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households
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Many of these ridiculous disability claims are legal, not fraudulent.



I forget what you do. Have you handled many of these cases as a doctor or an attorney?


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ItNeverRains
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re: Entitlement: 91% of Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households
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and why did the medical community determine to allow these legal claims? What's in it for them to do so?


Not get jacked by some thug or toothless redneck after 10 years of med school
This post was edited on 1/6 at 6:26 pm


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Tchefuncte Tiger
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re: Entitlement: 91% of Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households
Define "disabled" and "working households."


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Ace Midnight
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re: Entitlement: 91% of Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households
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don't both payments come out of SS?


Title II Disability comes out of the same fund as Retirement Social Security.

SSI is Title XVI and is paid from the general fund - it is means tested - for all practical purposes the same eligibility standards as Medicaid.


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LSUconvert
LSU Fan
Clackamas, Or
Member since Aug 2007
498 posts

re: Entitlement: 91% of Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households
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Muscular Dystophy



What is this?


buddhavista
Member since Jul 2012
3543 posts

re: Entitlement: 91% of Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households
Even if you fix disability which is abused, you have not fixed our entitlement problem, or fix our deficit.

We have to cut SS, medicare and defense. Its the only fricking solution to our shitshow.


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