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Dumbest story I've ever read:"Should the gov...help stop hot car deaths"

Posted on 7/10/14 at 2:31 pm
Posted by a want
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Posted on 7/10/14 at 2:31 pm
CNN: Should the government step in to prevent hot car deaths.

Truly breathtaking.

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(CNN) -- While the case of the Georgia father accused of intentionally leaving his toddler son to die in a hot car continues to grip the nation, it has also sparked a debate about whether more could be done to prevent the accidental deaths of children from heatstroke inside a car.

Is it an issue for the automakers to tackle voluntarily? Should the federal government mandate a driver-reminder alert? Is it solely a matter of parental responsibility? Those are just some of the questions parents across the country, experts and public officials are asking.


CNN is shite.
Posted by constant cough
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Posted on 7/10/14 at 2:32 pm to
Well I know I feel safer with Big Bother watching over us.
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 7/10/14 at 2:32 pm to
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CNN is shite.



This post was edited on 7/10/14 at 2:33 pm
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 7/10/14 at 2:33 pm to
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CNN is shite.


Did they break away from their MH370 coverage to post this story
This post was edited on 7/10/14 at 2:38 pm
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 7/10/14 at 2:33 pm to
They should pass a law that cars can't have doors on them.

Problem solved.
Posted by DonChowder
Sonoma County
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/10/14 at 2:36 pm to
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Truly breathtaking.
Agreed.
quote:

CNN is steaming dogshit.
Agreed with slight edit.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 7/10/14 at 2:37 pm to
I actually just read the article and it seemed to be a reasonable discussion of this issue. I think you judged it too quickly.

If I hadn't read it, I wouldn't have known this:

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States across the country aren't waiting for the federal government or the auto industry to step in, and are calling for new laws on the books. Nineteen states currently make it illegal to leave a child unattended in a vehicle, according to KidsAndCars.org. Two of those states are doing more: A new law in Tennessee now protects bystanders who break into a hot car to rescue a child from being held liable for damages, and in Connecticut, there is a push to stiffen penalties for leaving a child unattended in a car.

I think it's a great idea to pass a law to protect people who break into a car to rescue a child who's been left inside on a hot day. That is a good example of how government can take steps to protect children in these cases without getting too involved in how people live their lives.

The CNN article didn't say, "The government SHOULD help stop hot car deaths," it posted the question, "Should the government take action?" Then it looked at both sides.

I really don't see the problem.
This post was edited on 7/10/14 at 2:40 pm
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 7/10/14 at 2:39 pm to
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bystanders who break into a hot car to rescue a child from being held liable for damages


I would think this would be common fricking sense... I've recently seen signs on roads "If a child is left in a car, please call 911". If I see a child left in a car, I'm going to smash the window prior to calling 911.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 7/10/14 at 2:40 pm to
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CNN: Should the government step in to prevent hot car deaths.



Yes.

Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 7/10/14 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

it has also sparked a debate about whether more could be done to prevent the accidental deaths of children from heatstroke inside a car.


A real debate? Or is CNN simply begging the question here?

quote:

Those are just some of the questions parents across the country, experts and public officials are asking.


Experts huh? Well now we know this needs to be taken seriously.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 7/10/14 at 2:40 pm to
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I would think this would be common fricking sense... I've recently seen signs on roads "If a child is left in a car, please call 911". If I see a child left in a car, I'm going to smash the window prior to calling 911.
Of course, but it's good that Tennessee actually passed a law to remove any liability from the person who takes action. As you know, the law is not always reasonable. Just because it makes sense to break in doesn't mean you won't get sued for damages by the car's owner. That kind of bullshite happens all the time.

In Tennessee, it's no longer an issue.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Member since May 2004
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Posted on 7/10/14 at 2:41 pm to
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Nineteen states currently make it illegal to leave a child unattended in a vehicle


That should have been done decades ago.

The problem is, in many if not all of these cases - the parents simply forget. There was a WaPO (I think) article on this recently where they delve into the psychology of how this happens.

Basically - when you are under severe stress - your mind starts running on the portion of your brain that is inherited from a fricking lizard. Couple that with a change in routine (the lizard brain still knows the routine) - coupled to the kid falling asleep in the car - and you've got a perfect recipe for disaster. I guarantee you none of the parents this happens to ever saw it coming.

If you have a young child and don't have some sort of reminder system - you're really putting yourself at risk.


THIS IS WHAT WE USE

LINK /


It's basically the same idea behind the giant hunk of wood they attach to gas station bathroom keys - unless you're hammered drunk there's no way you're walking away with it and not noticing.
This post was edited on 7/10/14 at 2:45 pm
Posted by yumahog
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 7/10/14 at 2:41 pm to
We don't need more Gotdamn government. We need more people with Gotdamn common sense.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/10/14 at 2:43 pm to
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Nineteen states currently make it illegal to leave a child unattended in a vehicle


To me this law isn't related to hot car deaths. How often does someone intentionally leave their kid in a car and the kid dies due to heat? It's the ones that forgot that causes death. Now there are other reasons why this maybe should be illegal but this isn't one.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 7/10/14 at 2:44 pm to
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The problem is, in many if not all of these cases - the parents simply forget.


That is absolutely no excuse whatsoever.
Posted by FT
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Posted on 7/10/14 at 2:45 pm to
I'm not sure why this article is breathtaking, or how it proves that CNN is shite. It wasn't like it was an advocacy article.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Member since May 2004
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Posted on 7/10/14 at 2:46 pm to
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That is absolutely no excuse whatsoever.


Whoever said it was?


This post was edited on 7/10/14 at 2:46 pm
Posted by tiger 56
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Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 7/10/14 at 2:47 pm to
I think the good samaritan law that every state has would hold someone harmless for breaking a car window to save the life of a child.

But the law, like people, is stupid sometimes.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 7/10/14 at 2:48 pm to
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I'm not sure why this article is breathtaking, or how it proves that CNN is shite. It wasn't like it was an advocacy article.
Well, you see, it has "CNN" on it, and I spent about 10 seconds reading the headline and the opening paragraph, and my immediate reaction was that it was stupid, so that settled it.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 7/10/14 at 2:48 pm to
Here's the WaPo article I was talking about:


WARNING: The article is kinda disturbing - not for the faint of heart.

LINK
This post was edited on 7/10/14 at 2:49 pm
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