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Did Texas kill an innocent man?

Posted on 8/4/14 at 9:59 am
Posted by FalseProphet
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Posted on 8/4/14 at 9:59 am
Warning: Extremely long article.

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For more than 20 years, the prosecutor who convicted Cameron Todd Willingham of murdering his three young daughters has insisted that the authorities made no deals to secure the testimony of the jailhouse informer who told jurors that Willingham confessed the crime to him.

Since Willingham was executed in 2004, officials have continued to defend the account of the informer, Johnny E. Webb, even as a series of scientific experts have discredited the forensic evidence that Willingham might have deliberately set the house fire in which his toddlers were killed.

But now new evidence has revived questions about Willingham’s guilt: In taped interviews, Webb, who has previously both recanted and affirmed his testimony, gives his first detailed account of how he lied on the witness stand in return for efforts by the former prosecutor, John H. Jackson, to reduce Webb’s prison sentence for robbery and to arrange thousands of dollars in support from a wealthy Corsicana rancher. Newly uncovered letters and court files show that Jackson worked diligently to intercede for Webb after his testimony and to coordinate with the rancher, Charles S. Pearce Jr., to keep the mercurial informer in line.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 10:05 am to
Texas Monthly had a long article on this a while back and I think a news mag program did a piece on it. What it really shows is how forensic evidence is often bullshite and is far from an exact science...and when you get out in the sticks it gets even dicier. Also, it's cops assuming guilt based off of how the suspected acted - he didn't act like they thought he should have so they went full bore to kill him. Tragic story.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 8/4/14 at 10:06 am to
Govt. cannot be trusted to kill people. Abolish the death penalty.
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
Member since Nov 2010
10070 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 10:07 am to
Probably a lot more than one.
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/4/14 at 10:07 am to
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Tragic story.


And, I honestly believe the guy was innocent. If enough waves are made, this might be the case that reforms the death penalty.
Posted by The Third Leg
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Posted on 8/4/14 at 10:08 am to
Probably dozens. And they wasted tons of money doing it.
Posted by Semaphore
a former French colony
Member since Jan 2013
275 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 10:10 am to
The death penalty should be privatized. Just set up a Dexter shop for hire.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57061 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 10:11 am to
quote:

Govt. cannot be trusted to kill people. Abolish the death penalty.


:kige:
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 10:12 am to
quote:

And, I honestly believe the guy was innocent. If enough waves are made, this might be the case that reforms the death penalty.


In Texas?
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 8/4/14 at 10:13 am to
quote:

Did Texas kill an innocent man?


WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE???
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11706 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 10:14 am to
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In Texas?


I'm waiting for the Supremes to reverse course on that whole cruel and unusual thing.

Texas is probably the worst of the worst when it comes to the death penalty. Kill them first, deny he evidence later.

Texas will never reform unless forced.
Posted by wilfont
Gulfport, MS on a Jet Ski
Member since Apr 2007
14860 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 10:16 am to
Adamantly opposed to the death penalty
This post was edited on 8/4/14 at 10:16 am
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 10:17 am to
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Probably dozens. And they wasted tons of money doing it.


this is my problem with it, death penalty is expensive!
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11706 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 10:19 am to
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this is my problem with it, death penalty is expensive!


It's almost cost prohibitive. But, some people insist on it.

I do want to note that not one single death-penalty supporter has posted in this thread.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36397 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 10:21 am to
quote:

Did Texas kill an innocent man?


yes
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10037 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 10:26 am to
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It's almost cost prohibitive. But, some people insist on it.

I would say that it IS cost prohibitive. With the number of convictions DNA has overturned, the various claims of prosecutorial misconduct that come to light, and the prolific cost of the legal process, I am stunned that anyone supports the death penalty.
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11706 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 10:27 am to
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I would say that it IS cost prohibitive. With the number of convictions DNA has overturned, the various claims of prosecutorial misconduct that come to light, and the prolific cost of the legal process, I am stunned that anyone supports the death penalty.


Oh, that Hammurabi bullshite runs rampant with a lot of southern conservatives.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 10:28 am to
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Texas is probably the worst of the worst when it comes to the death penalty and generally putting people in jail.


I live in TX, love the state, but I do not like their brand of law and order...It's law and order as determined by a bunch of yahoos that will lie in the aftermath in the face of proof that, not only were they wrong but they knowingly fudged the evidence and hid exculpatory evidence.
Posted by Wolf
Member since Sep 2005
1336 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 10:30 am to
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I do want to note that not one single death-penalty supporter has posted in this thread


Like most fanatics, they tend to ignore information that contradicts their world view.

Don't worry though. Just wait until the next time somebody is accused of a heinous crime. They will be back in full force bitching about how the accused doesn't deserve a trial and that it would be more efficient to let the victims family have at it. All because the police said they did it
This post was edited on 8/4/14 at 10:32 am
Posted by Radiojones
The Twilight Zone
Member since Feb 2007
10728 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 10:36 am to
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Govt. cannot be trusted to kill people. Abolish the death penalty.


This is exactly why I am opposed to the death penalty.
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