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re: Democrats missed a huge golden opportunity with Sessions
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:34 am to Blizzard of Chizz
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:34 am to Blizzard of Chizz
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By nature they can't ignore anything.
Yes they can. Its completely within their power to do so.
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What I'm against though is the dangerous precedent we are setting when it comes to whether or not we enforce the laws currently on the books in this country.
It's completely legal to do so.
That precedent was already set during the very first government in world history. Selective enforcement is nothing new.
I know you think you're being ideologically consistent, enlightened and a constitutional conservative but the truth is that enforcing every law on the books is impossible and for the sake of national security, the president and AG has to ignore a lot of laws to preserve the union of this country because if they did, literally millions of americans would be in jail right now.
There's a reason why prosecutorial discretion exists and it exists to act as a check against bad laws that has no business being enforced.
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I'm 100% against any admin, republican or democrat making it their policy to selectively enforce the laws of the land because they don't have the votes to change the law in congress.
I'm not.
Every election voters make a choice to choose which laws to ignore and which one get prosecuted.
The argument of saying the President and AG can't pick and choose which laws to enforce and ignore is a mentally and intellectually weak one and ignores reality. Trump will be ignoring a lot of laws and for example he's ignoring the ObamaCare mandate right now.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:39 am to Sentrius
The DNC has lost its collective mind to the point they can't think beyond identity politics. To attack a policy or political position that doesn't directly deal with race or gender is crazy talk at this point.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 1:58 am to Blizzard of Chizz
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Potency would be subject to regulation the same way alcohol % is regulated.
This is already the case in WA, OR and CO.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 2:03 am to Bourre
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Democrats should have worked him, reassurances on certain issues in exchange for votes. Instead, they called the man a racist and acted like pathetic losers
They have devolved into single tool titty babies
Posted on 2/24/17 at 2:56 am to Sentrius
If that many Dems in Congress sincerely want to end the WOD why aren't they openly campaigning for it?
Congress is exactly the proper and Constitional place to do that.
Congress is exactly the proper and Constitional place to do that.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 3:58 am to Sentrius
How is it that the same people who demonized big tobacco, preached agaist the perils of smoking and outlawed public smoking are so enamored with weed? I smoke neither, but man the hypocrisy is glaring.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 6:58 am to Sentrius
Is the OP suggesting that Democrats should have protected us all from the idiot, Sessions? Perhaps the Rupublicans who nominated and voted for him bear that responsibility.
Sessions will take us straight back to the 80s with a new drug war and war.
Sessions will take us straight back to the 80s with a new drug war and war.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 7:20 am to Sentrius
Sentrius, arguably better to get Sessions in so he has a real world impact on people. Tie him to Trump, hold the drug/civil asset forfeiture in your back pocket to really drive the wedge in later.
Of course such a move would be really cynical and the Senate Dems certainly weren't that forward thinking. So most likely the missed the first boat, but there's another one a-comin'.
Of course such a move would be really cynical and the Senate Dems certainly weren't that forward thinking. So most likely the missed the first boat, but there's another one a-comin'.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 7:25 am to Bourre
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Democrats should have worked him,
how do you propose that should have been done?
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reassurances on certain issues in exchange for votes
he passed on party lines, they didn't need dem votes to get him through.
quote:how did they 'act like pathetic losers'? by reading a letter from MLK's widow? by pointing out he is one of the few nominees to ever not get approved for a federal judgeship, and that it was due to his history of racism?
they called the man a racist and acted like pathetic losers
Posted on 2/24/17 at 7:26 am to Sentrius
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If they really wanted to stop Sessions from becoming AG and open up a wedge in the GOP to get at least 3 republicans to vote against him, they would've attacked Sessions for his pro war on drugs beliefs and desire to ramp up attacks on legal weed states
1) he was asked about his policy on drugs more than once
2) lol @ thinking that would have swayed 3 (R)'s from voting party line
Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:06 am to Sentrius
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Democrats really fricked the Sessions nomination up.
Agreed. I think his voting record on civil rights issues should have been the focus, along with the things you mentioned.
I don't think it would have mattered though. Sessions was always one of them, and no Republican was going to vote against him.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:16 am to The Spleen
They should have set the stage to really drive the WOD and civil asset forfeiture. The problem with focusing in on race and civil rights is conservatives will ignore it as more libtard identity politics. Painting the narrative around civil liberties and Session's troubling record on the matter would allow for a more effective push to hammer him when he makes the push back against legal recreational sellers.
The idea this would have turned some GOP senators is nonsense. The Dems could have done a better job setting the stage to hammer him, and by extension Trump, later.
The idea this would have turned some GOP senators is nonsense. The Dems could have done a better job setting the stage to hammer him, and by extension Trump, later.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:19 am to Sentrius
Quit your whining. Weed is way down the list of issues. I personally don't GAF about it one way or another.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:26 am to Sentrius
These same Dems could get that bipartisan support to pass legislation to declassify MJ, or at least remove it from thr statute which give them jurisdiction for enforcement as to MJ.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:35 am to Duke
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The problem with focusing in on race and civil rights is conservatives will ignore it as more libtard identity politics.
And that's unfortunate in light of the recent push for Voter ID laws. I do think Dems have focused way too much on the racial impact of the laws, and I don't think they are inherently racist. But I do think they disproportinately impact minority communities, and Sessions has a spotty, at best, track record on it. His prosecution of black civil rights workers in the early 80's was a complete sham.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 9:01 am to Sentrius
So where is all this speculation comming from?
Posted on 2/24/17 at 9:16 am to Sentrius
The Democrats played it the way they should, Sessions being Ag will translate into millions of votes in 2018 and 2020.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 9:21 am to Sentrius
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I could've seen Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee and and some liberal republicans voting against him for that.
wut
Posted on 2/24/17 at 9:22 am to The Spleen
Something about a wolf and crying.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 9:25 am to Blizzard of Chizz
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Exactly what do weed proponents envision legalization to look like? I'm genuinely curious to know.
Let the States decide. It's the constitutional conservative approach to it. I'm not saying it should be legal everywhere. The federal government does not need to be involved in it.
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