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Jarlaxle
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Dem Senator: 'We All Knew' Obama Was Lying

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When asked whether Democrats were misled by President Obama about whether Americans would be able to keep their plans in the individual insurance market, Gillibrand answered: “He should’ve just been specific. No, we all knew.”


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The redistributive nature of Obamacare, Gillibrand stated, was the point of the program; anyone claiming ignorance, therefore, is not telling the truth.


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mtntiger
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re: Dem Senator: 'We All Knew' Obama Was Lying
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The redistributive nature of Obamacare, Gillibrand stated, was the point of the program; anyone claiming ignorance, therefore, is not telling the truth.


How anyone can claim ignorance of this fact is beyond me.


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udtiger
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re: Dem Senator: 'We All Knew' Obama Was Lying
So...is being truthful about lying commendable?


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Choctaw
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RIP Senator Gillibrand.....we hardly knew thee

:dronestrike:


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dante
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re: Dem Senator: 'We All Knew' Obama Was Lying
So did she agree with lying and also the redistributive nature of Obamacare? She is as guilty as Obama, if deceitfulness was the only way to get this bill passed.


Wolfhound45
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re: Dem Senator: 'We All Knew' Obama Was Lying
I. Am. Speechless.

Wow.


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Champagne
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re: Dem Senator: 'We All Knew' Obama Was Lying
Democrats are practitioners of RealPolitik. As such, quaint Judeo-Christian notions about Truth are unimportant. "Truth" is whatever advances the collectivist agenda. "Truth" is whatever helps consolidate more political power for your movement.

Most devoted Democrats have no problem with using Lies and Deceit to gain political power. If they did have moral issues in this area, they would not be devoted Democrat Party voters.

Once you abandon traditional Judeo-Christian values, such as, Truth, Honesty, Integrity, Compassion, etc., you are psychologically better equipped to wage political warfare with the Republican Religious Nut-Jobs who still believe in Fairy Tales about the Spirit-Man-in-the-Sky and Santa Claus.
This post was edited on 11/18 at 10:49 am


Wolfhound45
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re: Dem Senator: 'We All Knew' Obama Was Lying
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Democrats are practitioners of RealPolitik.


I dont think historical Democrats were like this. In my opinion this is a relatively new phenomenon/methodology from the Progressive wing of the Democratic party.


upgrayedd
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re: Dem Senator: 'We All Knew' Obama Was Lying
Whoa, that's pretty big news


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Lsut81
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re: Dem Senator: 'We All Knew' Obama Was Lying
I hope someone asks Carney about this at the Presser...

"So Dem Congressmen are coming out and saying they knew that the President was lying about individuals keeping their plans.... Can you please tell me how they could know his statements were untruthful, but the President couldn't?"


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MMauler
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'We All Knew' Obama Was Lying


His lips were moving, so, of course he was lying. They guys entire life is just one big LIE.


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Champagne
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re: Dem Senator: 'We All Knew' Obama Was Lying
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I dont think historical Democrats were like this. In my opinion this is a relatively new phenomenon/methodology from the Progressive wing of the Democratic party.




The New Left Radicals currently running the Democrat Party were "born" at Berkeley in 1960. They have been around since then, gradually consolidating more and more political power within the Democrat Party and within our society's institutions.

I would call this "The Long March of the New Left Radicals." As we view the rise of the New Left Radicals from our current perch here in 2013, we can see that the Long March has been quite successful.

As you know, I'm quite pessimistic about our prospects of stopping the Long March. I am concerned that by 2113, the USA will be using a leftist authoritarian model of governance that is quite like a dictatorship.
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Poodlebrain
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re: Dem Senator: 'We All Knew' Obama Was Lying
And what does the Democratic National Committee have to say about Obamacare? LINK I did not see a single mention of the root word redistribute on the website. Someone should ask Senator Gillibrand why Democrats are reluctant to are reluctant to express something she claims is a plain truth?


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Wolfhound45
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re: Dem Senator: 'We All Knew' Obama Was Lying
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"The Long March of the New Left Radicals."


Well stated. And I agree completely.



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Lsupimp
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re: Dem Senator: 'We All Knew' Obama Was Lying
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Democrats are practitioners of RealPolitik. As such, quaint Judeo-Christian notions about Truth are unimportant. "Truth" is whatever advances the collectivist agenda. "Truth" is whatever helps consolidate more political power for your movement.

Most devoted Democrats have no problem with using Lies and Deceit to gain political power. If they did have moral issues in this area, they would not be devoted Democrat Party voters.

Once you abandon traditional Judeo-Christian values, such as, Truth, Honesty, Integrity, Compassion, etc., you are psychologically better equipped to wage political warfare with the Republican Religious Nut-Jobs who still believe in Fairy Tales about the Spirit-Man-in-the-Sky and Santa Claus.


Funny, how so many who are opposed to The State As All Powerful God refuse to believe the inherent truth of your statement. They just can't get their heads wrapped around The Collectivist Experiment, and the psychology of The Collectivists, and they go to ridiculous lengths to assist the collectivist by playing along. Traditional values, AND THE NAIVE EXPECTATION THAT YOUR IDEOLOGICAL OPPONENT SHARES THEM, ensure that your opponent will always be able to lie and not be held accountable.

Of course they knew he was lying. But American Liberalism has no internal requirement or demand upon itself for Truth.



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LSUnKaty
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re: Dem Senator: 'We All Knew' Obama Was Lying
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I am concerned that by 2113, the USA will be using a leftist authoritarian model of governance that is quite like a dictatorship.
You really think it will take that long?


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re: Dem Senator: 'We All Knew' Obama Was Lying
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I am concerned that by 2113, the USA will be using a leftist authoritarian model of governance that is quite like a dictatorship.


It will be well before that. We here on this board will all witness it before we die.

This will happen within the next few decades.


cajunangelle
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re: Dem Senator: 'We All Knew' Obama Was Lying

I know someone moving to Katy to go to the University of Houston College of Optometry. How long of a drive is it from Katy to the University?


SpartyGator
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re: Dem Senator: 'We All Knew' Obama Was Lying
It's been like that for quite a while


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dante
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re: Dem Senator: 'We All Knew' Obama Was Lying
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long of a drive is it from Katy to the University?
Guessing about 40 miles and the drive will seem like a half-day in a covered wagon.


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