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re: Dash cam video of Philando Castile killing
Posted on 6/20/17 at 4:40 pm to StrongSafety
Posted on 6/20/17 at 4:40 pm to StrongSafety
That guy should not have been shot.
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Posted on 6/20/17 at 4:40 pm to StrongSafety
quote:When an officer is dealing with someone with a gun, yes. Police officers want to live, too, and they can't take chances with people who have firearms and are not complying with orders.
Is not following orders a death sentence?
Posted on 6/20/17 at 4:40 pm to StrongSafety
Why did he pull it out? That was just odd and tragic.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 4:40 pm to StrongSafety
Look it's easy when a cop pulls you over just comply, if they try and beat your arse or shoot you and your complying then it will be on the camera and your rich or your family is rich.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 4:41 pm to StrongSafety
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Is not following orders a death sentence?
Well, when the cops tell you to stop going for a gun, you don't leave them much choice.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 4:42 pm to Errerrerrwere
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He did tell him numerous times
Time elapsed from the first command to not touch it until the shooting is over is about 5 seconds. Hell. The whole encounter is less than 40 seconds. The other officer never even draws her weapon.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 4:43 pm to C
quote:
Why did he pull it out?
How do you know he pulled it out?
Posted on 6/20/17 at 4:43 pm to the808bass
Doesn't change the facts. The facts are he was told not to reach for his weapon. He reached for the weapon. That is clearly seen and probably why the officer was acquitted.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 4:43 pm to the808bass
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Time elapsed from the first command to not touch it until the shooting is over is about 5 seconds.
So you mean to tell me that a person could've shot the other in that amount of time? If someone who just stated they have a gun starts reaching for something are you just gonna wait and hope it isn't a gun?
Posted on 6/20/17 at 4:45 pm to Errerrerrwere
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He reached for the weapon. That is clearly seen and probably why the officer was acquitted.
He reached. After being told to produce his license and insurance. Why was Yanez fired? Because he handled the situation so well? Why didn't the other officer draw her weapon?
Posted on 6/20/17 at 4:46 pm to Dawgfanman
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If someone who just stated they have a gun starts reaching for something are you just gonna wait and hope it isn't a gun?
No. Obviously I shoot everyone who says they have a gun and subsequently moves. It's just safer for me and mine.
Ridiculous posts get ridiculous responses.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 4:46 pm to Errerrerrwere
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He reached for the weapon. That is clearly seen and probably why the officer was acquitted.
In the officers own words...
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“I didn’t know where the gun was, he didn’t tell me where the frickin’ gun was, and then it was just gettin’ hanky. He was just staring straight ahead, and I was gettin’ frickin’ nervous and then … I told him to get his frickin’ hand off his gun … frick.”
Posted on 6/20/17 at 4:47 pm to kingbob
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You also see the officer repeatedly tell him not to reach for the gun, but he does so anyway.
Yep.
Just because he had a CCP for a not mean he doesn't have to listen to the officer. In fact, having it requires him to follow the commands of the LEO in that situation.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 4:47 pm to NYNolaguy1
Sounds like a well-trained officer who had a clear grasp of the situation.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 4:47 pm to the808bass
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No. Obviously I shoot everyone who says they have a gun and subsequently moves. It's just safer for me and mine. Ridiculous posts get ridiculous responses.
How often are you in those situations?
This post was edited on 6/20/17 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 6/20/17 at 4:48 pm to StrongSafety
The cop put himself into a bad position and then panicked. Castile handled it as best anyone could and was completely respectful.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 4:48 pm to Dawgfanman
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So you mean to tell me that a person could've shot the other in that amount of time? If someone who just stated they have a gun starts reaching for something are you just gonna wait and hope it isn't a gun?
Generally speaking if you're going to ambush someone it's not going to be with your kid in the car after informing the officer you have a concealed weapon.
Just saying...
Posted on 6/20/17 at 4:48 pm to Errerrerrwere
I'll say this...there can an apprehension to policing in the community. Let's just be honest. Where I disagree is that many think it comes from something inate within the culture. As if they are inherently inferior.
That is objectively wrong. Their apprehension and skepticism is a directly result and correlation to how they've been demonized and brutalized by these entities. Their skepticism is only a natural reaction. Some would rather them just be dumb and docile and to go along with the show while they get maimed
That is objectively wrong. Their apprehension and skepticism is a directly result and correlation to how they've been demonized and brutalized by these entities. Their skepticism is only a natural reaction. Some would rather them just be dumb and docile and to go along with the show while they get maimed
Posted on 6/20/17 at 4:48 pm to the808bass
He already handed him his license
Posted on 6/20/17 at 4:49 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Generally speaking if you're going to ambush someone it's not going to be with your kid in the car after informing the officer you have a concealed weapon. Just saying...
You willing to bet your life on such a thing?
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